Not really the point. The point is that free will doesn't exist.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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Do you believe if you are one of his sheep?
That what ever you find yourself doing, it will be his will, and you can not follow the voice of error?
The freedom to use your will does exist.
I have a feeling that you see free will as having everything go your way without problems.
Nope. The will is either subject to the flesh or the Spirit. We are either slaves to sin or slaves to to righteousness.
Galatians 5 v 1; Romans 10 v 10a; Romans 6 v 17-18; Colossians 2 v 20 It was for freedom that Christ set us free. Therefore, stand firm and do not be subject again to a yoke of slavery. With the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness. Though you used to be slaves to sin, you have been set free from sin and become slaves to righteousness. You have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world.
Free to get your own way, does not mean free will in today's fallen world.
We will only experience the fullness of free will when we are placed where nothing can go wrong... "Heaven."
Another excellent teacher.......
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People who adhere to their self-exalting free will doctrine have no Scriptures to back up what they say.
It's all vain opinion based on philosophical reasoning. In order to adhere to their vain opinions, they must
overthrow a slew of Scriptures. Do they care? Of course not. They must cling to their vain opinions at all costs.
The altar of their ego must not be desecrated with Bible truth. Therefore in their theology, their flesh was able
to please God and bring forth good fruit from the corrupt tree of their incurably wicked heart, by producing faith
unto life even though Scripture says it is impossible ~ flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death.
It's all vain opinion based on philosophical reasoning. In order to adhere to their vain opinions, they must
overthrow a slew of Scriptures. Do they care? Of course not. They must cling to their vain opinions at all costs.
The altar of their ego must not be desecrated with Bible truth. Therefore in their theology, their flesh was able
to please God and bring forth good fruit from the corrupt tree of their incurably wicked heart, by producing faith
unto life even though Scripture says it is impossible ~ flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death.
It is not that we do not have free will.
The problem is, we are stuck in a world determined for us not to be free.
Colossians 2 v 8, Romans 16 v 18, Romans 10 v 2, Proverbs 19 v 2a ~ See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive. For I testify about them that they are zealous for God, but not on the basis of knowledge. Zeal is no good without knowledge. They teach as doctrine the precepts of men.
We went to the same Bible college. He graduated before me.
Once wrote him a letter, and he told me he read part of it at a church service.
It was about why does God allow Satan - day -or-night - appear in the court of heaven, to accuse the brethren.
Maybe I should share what it was about here later.
you know genez if a Person is stuck in a place to expect the unexpected to long there expectations may expect to much to soon.
Better being patient really you never know what's round the corner. So if you never know why be worried
Goodnight,
Did the Lord Jesus Christ die for ALL? That is the question.
If one answers "No."............. They did not get the colostrum of the milk. And cannot grow in the Grace and Knowledge of the Lord.
Stuck at the infant stage and dwindling away.
He wouldn't.
Nobody in the history of the world reading the scriptures trusting the Lord to provide understanding of what the Lord says in His Word ever became a calvinist. No no.
Only folks who were recruited into the calvinist cult joined up because they drank the kool aid without going to God's Word.... believing the whole counsel of God... for themselves so they could see calvin's doctrine is not even close to being biblical
The calvinists confuse God and satan.... they believe it's the same guy.
And of course the answer from scripture is very clearly that Jesus DID in fact go to the Cross of ALL men.
The calvinists have been shown this time and time again and they continue to refuse to accept the whole counsel of God and would rather continue being cherry pickers, scripture twisters, and they love to ignore scripture they does not fit their eisegesis
