False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duhIf they are alive spiritually then they have first responded positively to the Gospel message as the personal requirement/condition set by God.
False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duhIf they are alive spiritually then they have first responded positively to the Gospel message as the personal requirement/condition set by God.
I think though it does not really capture the meaning of "metanoia" since in English there is no direct word for word translation.
Jesus as Saviour and Prince gives repentance to His People along with forgiveness' of sins. Acts 5:31True repentance is a change of mind set because one can ask for it yes but unless there is a change in heart it is just words. a person who has surrendered themselves is one who has true repentance I can ask for forgiveness but I would not have done so without a change in my heart
False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duh
God did choose Israel to be His people.Also did god choose israel to be his people at any point ? And did they have any choice in the outcome?
Please read post 7,245. If this doesn't answer your question, please let me know.I understand repentance as accepting the Holy Spirit's conviction, and the Holy Spirit convicts the world of sin and righteousness and judgment (John 16:8). Is this another instance where the world applies only to the elect?
So do you believe that one cannot repent unless God gives them repentance? why then does he tell us to repent?Jesus as Saviour and Prince gives repentance to His People along with forgiveness' of sins. Acts 5:31
31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
Salvation repentance finds its source from Christ, its not in man
This is an interesting one.
The grammar definitely favors the gift being the whole statement "saved by grace through faith" but this in itself does not preclude faith being a gift if this is clear in other Scriptures.
So, it becomes a bigger discussion than Eph2:8, which is why I like seeing what was being discussed a bit ago re: the various ways to translate pistis and pisteuō and just what is involved in Faith.
It's also why I was watching to see if the discussion would go into the fall and Dichotomy vs. Trichotomy in regard to the human spirit, what faculties fallen man has and doesn't have, and what constructs like "spiritual death" even mean and then if it has been pushed too far by some.
False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duh
I see metanoeō as being pretty simple to translate, maybe not with one word, but "repent" seems to be filled with a view from theology infusing metanoeō with religious views of feeling sorrowful.
To me repentance is asking for forgiveness of your sins.
If Paul wanted to refer to pistis (“faith”), he could have written the feminine haute, instead of the neuter touto, and his meaning would have been clear.
Given the entirety of scripture where Abraham was justified by faith it really seems illogical that God gives what He requires.
As well,
Romans 6:23
For the payoff of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
So while we can dig down to the grammar, and there may be some room for debate, it still has to align with the entire Gospel message.
The gift in Eph. 4:8 is salvation. Salvation (being saved), is our justification, righteousness and eternal life gifted to us by God by His grace, on account of our faith.
A thorough word study of the term "peripateō" makes the fact of human FREE WILL and volition perfectly clear.To be fair to @Cameron143 I'm reposting this admission.
It is clear what much of his views are and where they come from. From my readings I've seen at least 3 of the 5 flower letters in his content.
cc: @HeIsHere @cv5 @Pilgrimshope and whoever may be interested.
They can HEAR because they find what they hear as foolishness.False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duh
Right. And God is constantly commanding and exhorting saved Christians to keep their "walk" worthy.So do you believe that one cannot repent unless God gives them repentance? why then does he tell us to repent?
Saving grace can put him on life support and bring him to, so he can hear what is needed to be understood!False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duh
You can’t answer a simple question ?
whos responsible if someone doesn’t believe and is damned ?
False and backwards. A person cant spiritually hear the Gospel when spiritually dead, duh
Amen!
The explanation in your post is how I see it as well, and scriptural of course..... I drew out this particular statement because I think it is so very important and true.
Saving grace can put him on life support and bring him to, so he can hear what is needed to be understood!
An unbeliever can know several things without being made spiritual.
He knows good and evil.
By a certain time in his life he will painfully know that he sins.
He knows he has lied at some time.
He also knows it was sinful to mug that old lady a few years ago on the street.
It all depends on one's culture.
When presented the Gospel, when ready... all people have come to a point in their life that they know they are a sinner.
The rest of the Gospel covers just enough that can be understood to make the right decision!
If I having been a Jew, who never stepped into a church to hear Bible teachings, understood enough to be saved?
Well? What do you want?
The Gospel is a SIMPLE message!
Not some deep spiritual teaching requiring regeneration to grasp it on a spiritual level.
When it talks about the 'natural man can not receive the things of the Spirit'?
That is in reference to people sitting in Church and hearing Bible lessons pertaining to theology to be taught to believers.
We goof up all the time.
Realizing we have, is what causes us to grow spiritually!
See ya later...
I'm going to go get [sober].