I do see this.... I was thinking just in case.
Reformed doctrine can be very seductive.
Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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I do see this.... I was thinking just in case.
Reformed doctrine can be very seductive.
Not systematically (line by line), although Blain indicated that he agrees with all.
And during discussions I can distinguish those who probably tend to agree from the Tulipists and Actsers.
I would include you in the agreement camp, but do you want to discuss my proposal specifically?
(It is not set in stone; I added "love" most recently per someone's suggestion/feedback, for example.)
Time for @Cameron143 to change pastors IMO.Proceed with much caution.
I have fled from many for many very good DOCTRINAL reasons.
Not at the moment. I'd want to focus on it and can't commit to do so right now.
I don't think it's surprising that you get a lot of disagreement but few willing or capable to get into the Scriptural details to systematically explain and prove why. I doubt you're surprised at this point either.
If you hover over the link under the moniker next to a post submitted by a user, a popup will appear ... there's a link "start conversation" ... that conversation takes place privately and does not appear in the open forum ...
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Of course, but Jesus said to shout our faith from the rooftops (Matt. 10:27),
so I merely encourage him to have courage of his convictions.
It is but we were born sinners whereas the angels were not created with the same condition. What is required of both is taking God at His word and believing He speaks true.
You can read, yes? Do you see any people in the verse. God looks at Himself, loves the life He has and makes a promise to Himself to share it. Not rocket science.
What I find truly ironic, is the Calvinist/Reformed type, with all their insistence on God alone hype, quite often are the most egocentric crowd. It's always about what God has done for them.
One of the oppositions strongest arguments is that God does not love everyone, and
With regard to love, reading your exchange revolving around God's sovereignty generated a thought that I did some ruminating on so that it might emerge more clearly. You wrote, "God is love," and this generated the logical string of thought, "If God is love, and God is sovereign, then love is sovereign." And I suspect that this, love, is the fulcrum upon which our salvation hangs. Yet, that does not necessitate that God does not love the lost. There is a saying, "If you love some(one?thing?), set it free)," and similarly, this is exactly what Jesus had come to do. Yet, there are differences in opinion of what constitutes actual freedom and so, some believe that their slavery is freedom (from hunger in the wilderness per Israel's example) and would rather 'go back to Egypt.' Their example is of a generation that was stuck between slavery and freedom as they could not 'cross over' as Abraham had done and, indeed, that is the core meaning of a "Hebrew." Did God hate those that died in the wilderness, or did God only hate that they refused to do what was essential in successfully crossing over, that they should trust Him?
I may have not successfully expressed my ideas on this very clearly, but I didn't want to forget it altogether either, so I wrote.
