Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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The thing is, if i wasn't the one telling the truth, you lot wouldn't feel the need to troll on and spam my post, to try and intimidate me.
You actually make me feel more determined such malice and spite can't win. On your own heads be it.
 
HeIsHere said:
LOL...

I guess we are all trolls if @GWH is a troll!
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On certain threads it's vitriol for anti-TULIP theology. On others it threats of some or other penalties for disagreement on free will philosophy (please note the similar anti-FW aka pejorative FWers).

Where's the love...
 
studier said:
On certain threads it's vitriol for anti-TULIP theology. On others it threats of some or other penalties for disagreement on free will philosophy (please note the similar anti-FW aka pejorative FWers).

Where's the love...
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I have met people from "reformed" churches they were lovely until their system was questioned.. then a different person emerged.

Some people say, "Well I must be right because everyone is against my doctrine, look it is right here in black and white in scripture."

other say "Hmm, why all the backlash and they investigate further, learn and by the prompting of Gods Spirit leave."

The latter is rare, most double and triple down, but in the end some became angry people, that is my experience, you cannot hold that

view of God without personal consequence.
 
Right, i have registered a formal complaint about the bullying and trolling with RoboOP, will now collate the evidence for presentation.
 
HeIsHere said:
I have met people from "reformed" churches they were lovely until their system was questioned.. then a different person emerged.

Some people say, "Well I must be right because everyone is against my doctrine, look it is right here in black and white in scripture."

other say "Hmm, why all the backlash and they investigate further, learn and by the prompting of Gods Spirit leave."

The latter is rare, most double and triple down, but in the end they are just angry people, that is my experience, you cannot hold that

view of God without personal consequence.
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Yes, historically they are descendants of Jonathan Edward's "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God".
I wonder whether he ever preached about "Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God"?
 
HeIsHere said:
The latter is rare, most double and triple down, but in the end they are just angry people, that is my experience, you cannot hold that

view of God without personal consequence.
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Interesting observation. I've noted it also over the years. The most aggressive interactions I've ever had discussing theology was from the TULIP group.
 
GWH said:
Yes, historically they are descendants of Jonathan Edward's "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God".
I wonder whether he ever preached about "Sinners in the Hands of a Loving God"?
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As a new Christian that book nearly destroyed my Christian walk.

That book should come with a big disclaimer on it... MARK and AVOID!
 
GWH said:
Well, when I asked you to cite one, you didn't,
and when I asked you to forgive me anyway--
you didn't.
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Don't you think you should stop being malicious to someone, before asking for forgiveness? Now have an image in my mind of someone punching another in the face, then saying sorry again and again. One needs to stop such malice before forgiveness be granted.
 
studier said:
Interesting observation. I've noted it also over the years. The most aggressive interactions I've ever had discussing theology was from the TULIP group.
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Yes even the TULIP group write about it and have videos on it, kinda funny how they explain this trait, seems like a lot of people noticed so they had to address it publicly.
 
LifelongLearner said:
It's they myriad of spiteful, malicious comments i'll be presenting GWH, there are a lot.
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Did you read this part of the reporting guidelines?

**If you are claiming that a user is being rude or making personal attacks, make sure you aren't part of the problem. Routinely I reject reports for this type of behavior because the person reporting the post is part of the problem in which case (in order to be fair) I can either do nothing or infraction all users involved.​

In all seriousness, might I suggest you head off to the threads you said you find friendlier? Go through some other Biblical Discussion threads. What you're finding to be so offensive is mild in comparison to the general tone of this part of the forum. I wish it weren't, but as you've said my will isn't free to affect others (or something like that). Nor does it seem God's will is free in this respect. His kids can be quite nasty. Maybe He's letting their free will work and has always known what He'd have to put up with for a time in order to have what He freely wills in the end.
 
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LifelongLearner said:
Don't you think you should stop being malicious to someone, before asking for forgiveness? Now have an image in my mind of someone punching another in the face, then saying sorry again and again. One needs to stop such malice before forgiveness be granted.
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How have I been malicious?!
You have been the one throwing ad hominem punches!
I have merely been trying to defend myself,
while being comforted by Matt. 5:10-12.
 
LifelongLearner said:
Don't you think you should stop being malicious to someone, before asking for forgiveness? Now have an image in my mind of someone punching another in the face, then saying sorry again and again. One needs to stop such malice before forgiveness be granted.
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Expecting delusional people to behave in a rational or sane manner may be asking a bit much, keep in mind. GWH is touted to being a pretty nice guy but I can only suppose that is by people who have not had him come against them with his repeated lies, misrepresentations, and false accusations... lies for which he then expects YOU to seek peace with him over. That is my experience with him, and in the midst of him claiming I should be seeking peace with him after he told a slew of lies about me and what I believe, he then repeated some of his lies. You never see all these people who claim to love peaceful interactions speaking up when such reprehensible behaviour is on display from one of their buddies. Nope. Silence rules the day, and they will continue to support their friends even when they say the most ridiculous things about what Scripture teaches.
 
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