Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Jordon]

It is weird.... He's like an emaciated wolf in sheep's clothing...

silly Monkey you need to learn

 

[sawdust]

saved people are innocent, there no longer condemned,

The only thing that is funny now is how you say I stand by and watch dogmatic statements and now you stand by @Genez that im a fake and now you approve them,

Yep well when God sends somebody an evil spirit to torment people. It means there free will means absolutely nothing just saying

What approval? I've said nothing about Genez's comment.

I spoke only to yours.

And I suggest you read the seven letters to the Churches in Revelation if you think believers are without condemnation.

Revelation 2:4
Yet I hold this against you:
Revelation 2:14
Nevertheless, I have a few things against you
Revelation 2:20
Nevertheless, I have this against you:

If a person wants to not have the Lord against them then they need to follow through with the verse of no condemnation. Simply being in Christ is not a license for anyone to whine and moan every time someone says something they don't like or go round pointing fingers at others. If you don't think that is the truth then prove otherwise.

Rom.8:1-4
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

 

[Cameron143]

The only thing that is funny is you playing Mr. Inn O. Cent as if you have never fired a shot.

Mr. I. N. O'cent would have been a great Irish name.

 

[Jordon]

What approval? I've said nothing about Genez's comment.

I spoke only to yours.

And I suggest you read the seven letters to the Churches in Revelation if you think believers are without condemnation.

Revelation 2:4
Yet I hold this against you:
Revelation 2:14
Nevertheless, I have a few things against you
Revelation 2:20
Nevertheless, I have this against you:

If a person wants to not have the Lord against them then they need to follow through with the verse of no condemnation. Simply being in Christ is not a license for anyone to whine and moan every time someone says something they don't like or go round pointing fingers at others. If you don't think that is the truth then prove otherwise.

Rom.8:1-4
8 Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Yep nice words I can believe from him

Anyhoo I'm done with your games for today

Have to go now I'm busy

 

[sawdust]

Even though God's truth is to be proclaimed to all, it will only be effective in the hearts of His Elect, those who God chose long ago.
To all others, it will become a stumbling block - leaving them without excuse!

How can they be without excuse when they have no idea what is being communicated?

You cry they are dead and unable to understand then in the next breath claim they are without excuse in spite of their ignorance.

Fun fact, the Lord has mercy on ignorance not condemnation.

1 Timothy 1:13
Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.

 

[Genez]

Nar your just another person who joined the site and then placed himself above above all with your superior grace. Which is an absolute joke,

You are a petty person. You want approval for doing wrong, on a merit that does not add up.

Go ahead resent anyone who makes you feel the truth about yourself.

 

[Genez]

let me guess, you've had a miserable Christmas like mr Scrooge

Yes.
And, who did you have your miserable Christmas like?

Resentment is not a trait of the Holy Spirit.

 

[Jordon]

I think you are a fake. You are none of the things you claim to be.

oh the word resentment just passes by you bye ok yeah I got it.

 

[Genez]

oh the word resentment just passes by you bye ok yeah I got it.

Would you just stop!


You are like a nagging woman.
It is getting ridiculous.

 

[Genez]

oh the word resentment just passes by you bye ok yeah I got it.

You want to stop me.
Don't you?

Why?
What are you afraid of?

 

[Jordon]

You want to stop me.
Don't you?

Why?
What are you afraid of?

what makes you think I'm afraid of meaningless words on the internet from somebody who is as mean as you.

You don't know me, and neither will you ever know me now you've seen to that , you make your bed.

You'll never be anything but a loud mouth to me now who insults people on Christmas.

 

[Jordon]

Would you just stop!


You are like a nagging woman.
It is getting ridiculous.

looks like your having your warped fantasies again

 

[Genez]

looks like your having your warped fantasies again

There is something about me that you hate.
That has been well established.

And...

You must keep misrepresenting me as a means to justify your hatred.

This thread was about free will.
You turned it into being about me.

I wish you would just go someplace else and allow the thread to maybe get back on track.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

(((((pilgrimshope))))) ... Merry Christmas to you and yours ... God bless you!!!

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Merry Christmas to you and all of yours as well my friend !!

 

[Jordon]

There is something about me that you hate.

nar this is your own self pity again showing, the self pity that drives your horrible comments and just attacks people with below the belt comments, the same self pity that thinks God owes you a living, like the same self pity that you say, you will not apologise unless you get an apology of God, yep such people and there comments like yours are generally made by people who think every wrong in there life is someone elses fault.

Dont blame me for your hate.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

You as well! Keep up the good fight. Always a pleasure to read your insights.

Whether you know it or not, you temper us " big mouths" through your kindness and patience........At least for me.

very nice of you Kroogz ... appreciate the kind words ... one of these days, all this chaff will burn away so I try to keep my eyes on what will be.

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[reneweddaybyday]

Nah...only you FWers would do that.

the thought never entered my mind ... but it entered yours, you dwelt on it ... then, rather than dismiss the thought as the nonsense it is, you set it as a fiery dart against your fellow brothers and sisters in Christ ... smh

2 Corinthians 10:3-5

3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)

5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ

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[reneweddaybyday]

Well then...if you think the only or primary correction for ignorance and blindness is good preaching, then why didn't you support your contention with a passage that actually complements what you wrote, e.g. Eph 4:11?

yes, Ephesians 4:11 passage is a good point concerning "ignorance and blindness are cured through correct preaching of God's Word") ...

Ephesians 4:7-15

7 But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.

9 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?

10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things)

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;

12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;

15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ

And thank you for your kind wishes.

yw

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[Genez]

nar this is your own self pity again showing, the self pity that drives your horrible comments and just attacks people with below the belt comments, the same self pity that thinks God owes you a living, like the same self pity that you say, you will not apologise unless you get an apology of God, yep such people and there comments like yours are generally made by people who think every wrong in there life is someone elses fault.

Dont blame me for your hate.

Don't you just hate what you described about me?

I was right......
And, you know how to be subtle about it.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

very nice of you Kroogz ... appreciate the kind words ... one of these days, all this chaff will burn away so I try to keep my eyes on what will be.

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amen !! same here

“And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:40‬ ‭KJV‬‬