Can We Really Exercise Free Will?
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It is not sarcasm. Anything we do through our flesh is wood/hay/stubble. Human Good. Human deeds. Human works.............EVIL.
Adam and Eve making their own coverings..........Was EVIL. Not sin. It was their own human good works. It was unsatisfactory to a righteous God.
We can plead our case all we want. I raised honest and trustworthy kids. I never stole. I fed the poor. I gave to the poor. I quit smoking. I quit drinking. I went to church......I AM GOOD ENOUGH.
Matt 7:23
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
Faith alone in Christ alone is the ONLY way.
how do you know your doing good through the flesh when your doing good surely doing good is doing good ? And the phrase your quoting says many in them days will say lord lord, but it doesn't talk about them giving to the poor, in fact Jesus only has nice things to say about giving to the poor.
And besides you knew you where being sarcastic, because one, you aimed your post at magenta, because of quotes she had made about natural man , and also why say it is not a sin for an unbeliver to give to poor but it is evil ? ( That makes absolutely no sense)
How did you derive at that conclusion .
“Whoever belongs to God hears the words of God. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.” “The knowledge of the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.” The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. If anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ. John 8 v 47; Matthew 13 v 11; 2 Corinthians ch 4 v 4; Romans 8 v 9b
Through no choice of his own, man is born into the human race and lives in his natural state as a child of wrath (Eph 2 v 3), not a child of God (John 3 v 3; Gal 3 v 26; 1 John 2 v 22-23; 1 John 4 v 3; 1 John 1 v 7). He lives his life driven by three main motivators: the lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and pride of life (1 John 2 v 15-17). He is hostile to/unable to submit to God (Rom 8 v 7), incapable of knowing or understanding the spiritual things of God (1 Cor 2 v 14; Matt 11 v 27), because he does not have the Spirit of God in him required to give Spiritual wisdom (1 Cor 1 v 18). Considering Godly Spiritual things to be foolishness, he rejects God and His Word, which, if left unremedied, will result in his ultimate destruction, having not attained to eternal life (Romans 1 v 18-32; 1 Cor 2 v 11, 14; James 1 v 23-24; 1 Thes 2 v 13-16; 1 Peter 2 v 9-17; Revelation 14 v 9-10; John 3 v 16).
Some of these people just really don't like what Scripture has to say.
Then they talk like I have said things I have not. Like saying I ignore Jesus as the solution
when every single post I make proclaims Christ as the solution. Clearly they have problems.
Just telling it how it is lady. The fact you still can't learn anything from it is telling.
We are not talking about the unsaved. Only those who are saved have a freed will.
How convenient for you. As if you make any sense with the Son who sets you free but you are not free.
Freedom to do as you please? That is how a child thinks which is why they always want to grow up before their time. No-one has ever had the freedom to do as one pleases. Reality always has a way of reigning you in.
And the two types of slavery are like chalk and cheese.
I think we are done.
Have a nice day.
Yes I think we are done because you are unable to prove your side and I already proved I was right so we don't really have much else to talk about I suppose. The scriptures speak for themselves so the fact you are unable to produce any solid evidence with scripture aside from that one verse tso yeah next time you go into a debate you might want to have a better source for your points you want to makeWe are not talking about the unsaved. Only those who are saved have a freed will.
How convenient for you. As if you make any sense with the Son who sets you free but you are not free.
Freedom to do as you please? That is how a child thinks which is why they always want to grow up before their time. No-one has ever had the freedom to do as one pleases. Reality always has a way of reigning you in.
And the two types of slavery are like chalk and cheese.
I think we are done.
Have a nice day.
The will of man is not free even when saved, it's there soul that has been set free.Legend in your own lunchbox mate. You proved nothing.
Because why, well when saved the will of man still lives in the flesh like it did before being saved,
John 1 states, the will of man lives in the flesh
And when saved this happens
Galatians 5:17
New International Version
17 For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[a] you want.
So the conclusion is the will of mankind does not get saved because above, we see the flesh is still corrupted and that's where the will of man lives, in the flesh nature, , when saved the will of man is still in conflict with the spirit, as it was before being saved.
So the conclusion is the soul is set free but the will of man is not.
Because for mankind God is the authority, who's will is above all, and has completely liberty over us all.
So the conclusion is God's will sets the soul free but not the will of man.
And the soul is set free with Gods enabling grace, and whilst God's enabling grace is in the heart of the unsaved the soul even listens to God will, or there flesh nature where there will is.
Really hope this fills your lunchbox
Hopefully this will give you a nice desert for your lunchboxLegend in your own lunchbox mate. You proved nothing.
Matthew 6:22-24
New International Version
22 “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy,[a] your whole body will be full of light. 23 But if your eyes are unhealthy,[b] your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!
24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other.
So sawdust the soul of man is seen through the eyes of the lord, and you also can see the soul of a person through there eyes, but the soul is seen in love more, by people who love you and know you, in the soul you love,.you don't see speaking in their soul you see love regardless of what the flesh is saying.
And here's a nice song that also proves this very thing just like Mathew 6
You know sawdust the nicest of people and their living loving souls really do get seen as the opposite here at cc and we'll never mind, because why, well who you don't know they really can't love you.
not true, really sawdust you can't see the light in her soul,
This is where it all goes wrong, either darkness is in a person soul or light. The soul either serves one master or the other
But the flesh where the will of man lives, it can either be tamed by the spirit or led by darkness. And when it's tamed by the light, this means the light is in the soul of a person and is controlling the will man.
No, I just fixed what you stated incorrectly. There is no condition needed/required for salvation, that's why scripture says it is by grace.
People can understand something but still don't listen, it's like this, you knew something was wrong but you still did it.
