Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Magenta]

In not sure how you can paint the picture of giving to poor evil,

They call bad good, and good bad.

For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and
you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.

 

[Genez]

You are a fake. You continually misrepresent what I share and besmirch and impugn my character. No one led of the Spirit would do this to a Christian. So your fruit is lacking and your discernment continues to be poor.

Impugn nothing.....

And do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even expose them. Ephesians 5:11

You said so yourself! The Rapture that most here understand you deny.. and claim to have something else as your rapture (so you can claim you believe in the Rapture).

And, you said in effect, The Millennium has been happening since the first century, and is not to take place after the Rapture (that you do not believe in).

Solid thinking Christians would not tolerate such thinking as legit.
And, like that ex witch in the video confessed. They were trained to bring in confusion and discord where Christians would meet.

Smiley face deception if you can get away with it.

I have been just observing your actions, and fear for your eternity, wishing you would find the right Spirit to be obedient to.
But, that is up to you.

 

[Kroogz]

They call bad good, and good bad.

For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and
you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.

Heb 5:12
For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the actual words of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.

 

[Jordon]

@Kroogz said:
All sin is evil. But not all evil is sin.

Giving to the poor through the Spirit is divine Good. Giving to the poor through your Flesh....is evil/human good/ human deeds/human works.

It is not a sin for unbelievers to give to the poor......But it is evil/human good/human deeds/human works.



Isa 64:6
For all of us have become like one who is unclean, And all our righteous deeds are like a filthy garment; And all of us wither like a leaf,

HEB 5:14
But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to distinguish between good and evil.

yep isiah is before the day of Pentecost.

Yep and unbelievers still have Gods will in them.

So if they do give to the poor it's more than likely because God is good in them.

But anyway carry on willy nilly picking scriptures to justify yourself

 

[Genez]

They call bad good, and good bad.

For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and
you took Me in, I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.

You sure know your verses.
But, do not know them.

Interesting. Satan was sounding like a concerned friend (in the Greek) when he wanted to appear like he was concerned about starving Jesus, to suggest that Jesus turn the stones into bread. He made an appeal like someone concerned with Jesus' welfare. It is to be found in the Greek, not the generic renderings of too many English translations.

Evil is merciless deception.

 

[Kroogz]

So if they do give to the poor it's more than likely because God is good in them.

Most likely approbation lust.

 

[Cameron143]

Impugn nothing.....

And do not have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather even expose them. Ephesians 5:11

You said so yourself! The Rapture that most here understand you deny.. and claim to have something else as your rapture (so you can claim you believe in the Rapture).

And, you said in effect, The Millennium has been happening since the first century, and is not to take place after the Rapture (that you do not believe in).

Solid thinking Christians would not tolerate such thinking as legit.
And, like that ex witch in the video confessed. They were trained to bring in confusion and discord where Christians would meet.

Smiley face deception if you can get away with it.

I have been just observing your actions, and fear for your eternity, wishing you would find the right Spirit to be obedient to.
But, that is up to you.

There are plenty of people here who are very solid thinking Christians who believe as I do. And what I believe is what most Christians believed for over 1800 years. What you believe has come during the last 200 years. It came from Darby and popularized in America in the Schofield Bible.

You would do better to concern yourself with yourself. My actions are only considered with shortcomings by those whose discernment is poor. All is well with my soul.

BTW...@HeIsHere can tell you all about Darby. Also, have you asked her about depravity?

 

[Genez]

yep isiah is before the day of Pentecost.

Yep and unbelievers still have Gods will in them.

So if they do give to the poor it's more than likely because God is good in them.

But anyway carry on willy nilly picking scriptures to justify yourself

It is convenient sometimes to be ignorant while sounding sure of oneself when making a point you want to make.
If you had any sense you have realized you are out of your league a while now.

Problem is. Since you can not grasp certain truths with certainty, you assume it is the same for everyone else.
That we are all fair game.

We are just waiting for reality to dawn upon you.

I tell you. If you are saved? Then you will need (through prayer) to find a good pastor and settle yourself down to learning, learning, learning, learning, and never stop learning. As it stands right now? It appears you believe that we are like yourself and are all faking it, competing to arrange better rationales than the next guy.

Lying with the Word of God witchcraft.

I attended a Bible college and some witches were in the classes with all of us.
At one point the Lord had some undeniably exposed.
Seemed like nice people (according to human standards) up until then.

Not saying I know what you are.
I can only say that you remind me of some who were.

 

[Genez]

There are plenty of people here who are very solid thinking Christians who believe as I do.

Jehovah Witnesses think they are solid thinking Christians.

 

[Cameron143]

Jehovah Witnesses think they are solid thinking Christians.

Good dodge. Ignore the post and deflect.

BTW...no one here believes you are actually concerned for me. That's why I called you fake. If you were genuinely concerned for me, you wouldn't be sitting around waiting for God to get me.

 

[Genez]

Good dodge. Ignore the post and deflect.

BTW...no one here believes you are actually concerned for me. That's why I called you fake. If you were genuinely concerned for me, you wouldn't be sitting around waiting for God to get me.

I was more concerned for you, than you are.
But, you really don't care.

 

[Cameron143]

I was more concerned for you, than you are.
But, you really don't care.

More fake. I'm well aware of the intimacy of my relationship with God. I'm sensitive to His leading. I'm also sensitive to spirituality. Like I said, you should focus your concern inwardly.

 

[Jordon]

Most likely approbation lust.

Could be many reason why a person gives to the needy, but the term unbeliever also means they can be in the process of believing.

Having no hope for a person doing good is pretty sad really, as you would not know there intension, perhaps your idea of others giving to the needy has come from yourself, when you finally forced yourself to give, and maybe that still happens today for you.

 

[Jordon]

It is convenient sometimes to be ignorant while sounding sure of oneself when making a point you want to make.
If you had any sense you have realized you are out of your league a while now.

Problem is. Since you can not grasp certain truths with certainty, you assume it is the same for everyone else.
That we are all fair game.

We are just waiting for reality to dawn upon you.

I tell you. If you are saved? Then you will need (through prayer) to find a good pastor and settle yourself down to learning, learning, learning, learning, and never stop learning. As it stands right now? It appears you believe that we are like yourself and are all faking it, competing to arrange better rationales than the next guy.

Lying with the Word of God witchcraft.

I attended a Bible college and some witches were in the classes with all of us.
At one point the Lord had some undeniably exposed.
Seemed like nice people (according to human standards) up until then.

Not saying I know what you are.
I can only say that you remind me of some who were.

Well genez you can imagine all sorts of things about people in your presence, I suspect you do.

I know all about evil spirits, and i would say they've not only casted a shadow on you but who ever you've ever been near too your whole life, making it pretty hard for anyone to like you or for you to like them, playing games with your head and whoevers head as ever come near you.

Yep because your sourcey and accusations have been worse than anyone in this thread.

 

[Jordon]

It is convenient sometimes to be ignorant while sounding sure of oneself when making a point you want to make.
If you had any sense you have realized you are out of your league a while now.

The league ? Let me guess your at the top and I'm at the bottom of league, this is called being provoking. And being belittling and insulting people's minds ,....the word is mean hearted for you here.

Problem is. Since you can not grasp certain truths with certainty, you assume it is the same for everyone else.
That we are all fair game.

This is also called being provoking and projecting lower images of people and thinking of yourself more highly again, yep sourcey has a hold on you, theses are comments of blaming others for stuff that hasn't happend, whilst not examining yourself.

We are just waiting for reality to dawn upon you.

who's the we here, is it your bunch of Calvie haters you've built up in your mind and worked so very hard at, having people hated again for no good reason, with your hate campaign probably, more provoking and belittling behaviour from you here.

I tell you. If you are saved? Then you will need (through prayer) to find a good pastor and settle yourself down to learning, learning, learning, learning, and never stop learning. As it stands right now? It appears you believe that we are like yourself and are all faking it, competing to arrange better rationales than the next guy.

more logical fallacies, the idea of knowing who will be saved is in Gods hand, what appears to you is ideas born out of conspiracy, yet more dark imagination that has a hold on you, definitely sourcey going on here. And you being led by pride.

Lying with the Word of God witchcraft.

. Yep more false projecting. Definitely a mind that doesn't think twice, and does think twice, because of sourcey your under, or your highly bullying mind, Yep your the witch here right now projecting false images.

I attended a Bible college and some witches were in the classes with all of us.
At one point the Lord had some undeniably exposed.
Seemed like nice people (according to human standards) up until then.

. Makes no difference to what you do with your own works, and boasting doesn't mean you have the right to be the dominant person over everyone you try to be. The lord works are more important, and you using his world to think of yourself more highly is exalting yourself, yep again the work of pride and the enemy

Not saying I know what you are.
I can only say that you remind me of some who were.

You know absolutely nothing about me other than what you want to project,. It's called being that word you say is ok to be, which is having narcissist tendencies.


Have a great day bully

 

[Jordon]

JUST WHAT I HAVE BEEN SAYING ALL ALONG....

Yep as always this is finding the curses that the enemy leads you to Mr witch

Yep this one overrides your curse

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[Kroogz]

@Kroogz said:
All sin is evil. But not all evil is sin.

Giving to the poor through the Spirit is divine Good. Giving to the poor through your Flesh....is evil/human good/ human deeds/human works.

It is not a sin for unbelievers to give to the poor......But it is evil/human good/human deeds/human works.

They call bad good, and good bad.

@Magenta Said:
Here the discussion revolves around what Scripture says of the natural man being a slave to sin and lover of darkness refusing to come into the light as a God-hater taken captive to do the will of the devil, opposed to the spiritual things of God, which he can neither receive nor comprehend, but yet we have many here contradicting and denying what Scripture says of the natural man. They claim the man of flesh, flesh within which nothing good exists, which serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death, will decide with his incurably wicked heart to believe what he hears as foolishness.

 

[Jordon]

@Kroogz said:
All sin is evil. But not all evil is sin.

Giving to the poor through the Spirit is divine Good. Giving to the poor through your Flesh....is evil/human good/ human deeds/human works.

It is not a sin for unbelievers to give to the poor......But it is evil/human good/human deeds/human works.

@Magenta Said:
Here the discussion revolves around what Scripture says of the natural man being a slave to sin and lover of darkness refusing to come into the light as a God-hater taken captive to do the will of the devil, opposed to the spiritual things of God, which he can neither receive nor comprehend, but yet we have many here contradicting and denying what Scripture says of the natural man. They claim the man of flesh, flesh within which nothing good exists, which serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death, will decide with his incurably wicked heart to believe what he hears as foolishness.

yep you painted the picture of giving to the poor evil.

 

[HeIsHere]

@Kroogz said:
All sin is evil. But not all evil is sin.

Giving to the poor through the Spirit is divine Good. Giving to the poor through your Flesh....is evil/human good/ human deeds/human works.

It is not a sin for unbelievers to give to the poor......But it is evil/human good/human deeds/human works.

@Magenta Said:
Here the discussion revolves around what Scripture says of the natural man being a slave to sin and lover of darkness refusing to come into the light as a God-hater taken captive to do the will of the devil, opposed to the spiritual things of God, which he can neither receive nor comprehend, but yet we have many here contradicting and denying what Scripture says of the natural man. They claim the man of flesh, flesh within which nothing good exists, which serves the law of sin and brings forth fruit unto death, will decide with his incurably wicked heart to believe what he hears as foolishness.

So the non-believer who loves and cares for her infant child, feeds him, baths him, loves him is doing works which are evil?

Where does God call this evil?

 

[HeIsHere]

From the very high lofty Calvinist places..... Edwin Palmer, The Five Points of Calvinism, 1972.
It is "A Paradox" apparently.