Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

[Blue155]

The god of Calvinism force saves some people to be saved based on no conditions. Hence why it is called 'Unconditional Election' in Calvinism. Yet the god of Calvinism allows for the majority of mankind to burn for all eternity, and man had no say-so in the matter. Would this not be darkness or evil for the god of Calvinism to do this? I believe it would be. In fact, I wholeheartedly believe such a belief will one day be judged by our Lord and condemned because it is not how God is portrayed in the Bible.




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Amen

 

[Me_Clay]

Thank you for your courage and spiritual strength.



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Nothing to do with courage or spiritual strength, you just need to tell them.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

well how many times have you tried to make me look faithless by calling me a morally bankrupt calvinist to ?

I said the belief of Calvinism is morally bankrupt.



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[Blue155]

@Bible_Highlighter, do you know of any debates I can watch online where the Calvinists struggles in the debate and gets crushed?

 

[Jordon]

The god of Calvinism force saves some people to be saved based on no conditions. Hence why it is called 'Unconditional Election' in Calvinism. Yet the god of Calvinism allows for the majority of mankind to burn for all eternity, and man had no say-so in the matter. Would this not be darkness or evil for the god of Calvinism to do this? I believe it would be. In fact, I wholeheartedly believe such a belief will one day be judged by our Lord and condemned because it is not how God is portrayed in the Bible.




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so you didn't watch the documentary then

You need God to thin you out sir your plagued with plagiarism

 

[Magenta]

Divine wisdom comes from the Holy Spirit through the inspired Word (1 Corinthians 2:6-13). The “natural man” is guided by human wisdom. The existence of God and power have been so clearly demonstrated by His creation that no one can reasonably claim, "God does not exist." The entire creation bears witness to the fact that it was created by a Creator. Everywhere you look in creation, there is evidence that a Maker exists. Where did the stars come from? The Earth? Water? Plants? Animals? The Psalmist writes, "The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork" (Psalm 19:1). This is a reality that everyone understands, yet there are unfortunately those who will “suppress the truth in unrighteousness” (Rom. 1:18), as they have chosen to be “the natural man” (1 Cor. 2:14). One whose “ear is uncircumcised”, and “the word of the LORD is a reproach to them; They have no delight in it.” (Jer. 6:10). That is why for these kinds of people who have chosen this mindset, they see the message of the cross to be foolish (1 Cor. 1:18).

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. Stand firm, then, and do not be encumbered once more by a yoke of slavery. For in Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set you free from the law of sin and death. Now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves to God, the outcome is eternal life. 2 Corinthians 3 verse 17; Galatians 5 verse 1; Romans 8 verse 2; from Romans 6 verse 22

 

[Jordon]

I said the belief of Calvinism is morally bankrupt.



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no you've said im one several times

 

[Magenta]

The god of Calvinism force saves some people to be saved based on no conditions. Hence why it is called 'Unconditional Election' in Calvinism. Yet the god of Calvinism allows for the majority of mankind to burn for all eternity, and man had no say-so in the matter. Would this not be darkness or evil for the god of Calvinism to do this? I believe it would be. In fact, I wholeheartedly believe such a belief will one day be judged by our Lord and condemned because it is not how God is portrayed in the Bible.
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I do not believe what you pretend I do while also pretending you do no such thing.

You and your "being forced." Gosh. Give it up already.

Do you think God kidnaps people against their will?

He is an unjust tyrannical monster? Your peers do.

He never acts unilaterally in matters pertaining to salvation?

He rapes people? That's what they say. Do you parrot them?

On the other hand you reject what Jesus said. How sad.

Those given to Him will come. Nothing about being forced.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

so you've didn't watch the documentary then

You need God to thin you out sir your plagued with plagiarism

Your not making any sense again. Please stop and rationally think before you type.
What documentary are you talking about?

You need God to thin you out sir

What does this even mean?
You do realize cryptic responses of condemnation is never going to go over well with our Lord, right?

your plagued with plagiarism

What on Earth are you talking about?
What work did I plagiarize?
What does that have to do with our discussion on free will?


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[Bible_Highlighter]

I do not believe what you pretend I do while also pretending you do no such thing.

You and your "being forced." Gosh. Give it up already.

Do you think God kidnaps people against their will?

He is an unjust tyrannical monster? Your peers do.

He never acts unilaterally in matters pertaining to salvation?

He rapes people? That's what they say. Do you parrot them?

On the other hand you reject what Jesus said. How sad.

Those given to Him will come. Nothing about being forced.

If you believe in Unconditional Election, then what I describe is true.
If you don't adhere to this Calvinistic point and you believe that the majority of mankind does have a choice to choose God, then just say so.



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[Jordon]

Your not making any sense again. Please stop and rationally think before you type.
What documentary are you talking about?



What does this even mean?
You do realize cryptic responses of condemnation is never going to go over well with our Lord, right?



What on Earth are you talking about?
What work did I plagiarize?
What does that have to do with our discussion on free will?


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your to jumped up to even want to notice

See if you can see the life inside this true Calvie speaking to the true life in you. From the Calvin college who teach Calvin's teachings

And if you can let me know

 

[Magenta]

If you believe in Unconditional Election, then what I describe is true.
If you don't adhere to this Calvinistic point and you believe that the majority of mankind does have a choice to choose God, then just say so.
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There you go acting all clueless again. Man's will is not free, period. If Jesus has RESCUED you from the
dominion of darkness you should be thanking Him and not pretending it was because of something you
did when Scripture PLAINLY says it is not by man's will desire or effort or ANYTHING we have done, certainly
not by the flesh which Scripture also explicitly articulates, since flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth
fruit unto DEATH not life... Jesus said it was impossible with man. It is because of of His own good pleasure..
He said many things you reject.

NOR do you get to decide what I believe and then LIE about it. Lie all you want,
if you you want, it does not make what you said true of me, it just makes you a liar.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

your to jumped up to even want to notice

See if you can see the life inside this true Calvie speaking to the true life in you. From the Calvin college who teach Calvin's teachings

And if you can let me know

Why on Earth would I want to watch that?
Do you want to watch Arminian documentaries or videos?


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[Jordon]

Why on Earth would I want to watch that?
Do you want to watch Arminian documentaries or videos?


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where done

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

There you go acting all clueless again. Man's will is not free, period. If Jesus has RESCUED you from the
dominion of darkness you should be thanking Him and not pretending it was because of something you
did when Scripture PLAINLY says it is not by man's will desire or effort or ANYTHING we have done, certainly
not by the flesh which Scripture also explicitly articulates, since flesh serves the law of sin and brings forth
fruit unto DEATH not life... Jesus said it was impossible with man. It is because of of His own good pleasure..
He said many things you reject.

NOR do you get to decide what I believe and then LIE about it. Lie all you want,
if you you want, it does not make what you said true of me, it just makes you a liar.

Okay. So if there is no free will, then God creates the majority of mankind for the sole purpose to be tortured for all eternity without their say so. Is that what you believe? If not, then explain.



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[Magenta]

Okay. So if there is no free will, then God creates the majority of mankind for the sole purpose to be tortured for all eternity without their say so. Is that what you believe? If not, then explain.
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It is not what I believe.

When are you going to accept that the spiritual man and the natural man are different entities?

If you are saved you were once a natural man. Now you are a carnal Christian but that is different from the natural man.

Too weird that you think Paul talked to Christians never mentioning what they used to be like. Like, totally.

 

[Blue155]

@Bible_Highlighter, what’s ironic is the very god who atheists despise is not the God of the Bible, but the god of Calvinism. Every blasphemous thing they say about the biblical God is actually describing the Calvinistic god.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

where done

Ok, tchau, tchau.

May....

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[Jordon]

@Bible_Highlighter, what’s ironic is the very god who atheists despise is not the God of the Bible, but the god of Calvinism. Every blasphemous thing they say about the biblical God is actually describing the Calvinistic god.

again your casting a false idol onto his children

It's called plagiarism.

Your plagued ask God to remove it

you love me right

The problem is I am

That's what you said


I thought that meant you knew the problem with this world

Does that not fall into your sinful nature to

Or was you just addressing your i am problem to the rest of the world ?

 

[Magenta]

@Bible_Highlighter, what’s ironic is the very god who atheists despise is not the God of the Bible, but the god of Calvinism. Every blasphemous thing they say about the biblical God is actually describing the Calvinistic god.

God blames them. They blame you. You blame others. What a merry-go-round!

I don't believe your lies, though.