Can We Really Exercise Free Will?

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Imagine if a Calvinist had been counted in with the number coming out of Egypt in the Exodus?

When God had Moses present the Ten Commandments to all?

The Calvinist would have freaked!

"How dare you! That would require free will to follow!" ​
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And, so on, and so forth.....
 
the_seeker said:
Maybe you are right about that, maybe not. I do not know.
Anyway, anyone here 100% sure we have a free will, can you document your claim ?
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Adam indubitably demonstrated his free will in Genesis 3. Satan likewise in Job 1 & 2....😌

Adam chose to sin (a wrong choice) of his own free will.....WHILE HE WAS SINLESS AND PERFECT in full fellowship with God.

And THEN, Adam chose to do the RIGHT THING.....by preventing Eve from eating from the tree of life, and refusing to eat from the tree of life himself AFTER HE FELL. And then did the RIGHT THING by testifying TRUTHFULLY (as did the Woman) at the trial of Satan.
 
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bytheblood said:
We must realize that Jesus, not for a millisecond, operated as God in His earthly ministry, even though He is. He limited Himself. If you do a study on Philippians 2:5-7, especially verse seven, He emptied Himself of some of His Godly attributes such as His Omniscience, He didn't know who would sit on His left or right, His Omnipresence, He had to walk or ride when He travelled, or His Omnipotence, when an angel came and " strengthened " Him in the garden of Gethsemane. He also said " the works I do shall YOU do also.' John 14:12. The one who caused us to have a sinful nature, Adam, was a man. The one who gave us a new nature, the " last Adam" (Jesus), also lived as a man in His first advent. To pay for our sins He had to be one after it's own kind. If He were operating as God in His earthly ministry He would not have to" pray to My Father, and He shall presently give ME more than twelve legions of angels ", Matt. 26:53, He would have just called them forth. He didn't pray for them because He knew His assignment, to fulfil righteousness.
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What has any of that to do with the fact that Jesus did what we could not?

I even specified, "in the flesh."
 
the_seeker said:
You are a honest person. You admit that there is no proof of the so-called "free will". Thank you.
I agree, there is no proof. So it's a matter of belief.
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Free will is indelibly codified in the Bible from cover to cover. Its utterly impossible to avoid it or deny it.

However, you can be blinded to it if this happens to your desire, choice and will in the matter.
 
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cv5 said:
Free will is indelibly codified in the Bible from cover to cover. Its utterly impossible to avoid it or deny it.

However, you can be blinded to it if this happens to your desire, choice and will in the matter.
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Amen…
 
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cv5 said:
Adam indubitably demonstrated his free will in Genesis 3. Satan likewise in Job 1 & 2....😌

Adam chose to sin (a wrong choice) of his own free will.....WHILE HE WAS SINLESS AND PERFECT in full fellowship with God.

And THEN, Adam chose to do the RIGHT THING.....by preventing Eve from eating from the tree of life, and refusing to eat from the tree of life himself AFTER HE FELL. And then did the RIGHT THING by testifying TRUTHFULLY (as did the Woman) at the trial of Satan.
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This is not a proof of "free will".
 
OLDBUTNEW said:
I just did, didn't I?! Don't take yourself so seriously!
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Wow. You are new, maybe, perhaps you are a deceiver returning after being banned, but anyways, you are new here and
think you can dictate my testimony to me? Free willers such as yourself prove all day long how delusional they are.
 
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