Calvin did not invent the doctrines of grace
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I understand this guy is banned, but compare what he says to what Jesus says.
There is no judgment against anyone who believes in (Jesus). But anyone who does not believe in Him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. — John 3.18
I am the way, the truth and the life. No one gets to the Father except through me. — John 14.6
There is no judgment against anyone who believes in (Jesus). But anyone who does not believe in Him has already been judged for not believing in God’s one and only Son. — John 3.18
I am the way, the truth and the life. No one gets to the Father except through me. — John 14.6
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I don't think you read that quote correctly.
FrankSophia said:
Any who are sincere will be received, no matter the belief system that gets them there.
I don't see Jesus or his gospel written there in the quote. I read him saying , no matter the belief system that gets you there.
Lots of brief systems in this world.
FrankSophia said:
Any who are sincere will be received, no matter the belief system that gets them there.
I don't see Jesus or his gospel written there in the quote. I read him saying , no matter the belief system that gets you there.
Lots of brief systems in this world.
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I cannot help myself but just to complicate the discussion even more it is not a belief system, a belief system will save no one, it is the
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname
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I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname
).I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
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I cannot help myself but just to complicate the discussion even more it is not a belief system, a belief system will save no one, it is the
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname).
I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname
).I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
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Absolutely!!.......rather deluded sort of person who thinks they have all the answers but not willing to search for truth because they think they are in possession of it already.
I used to engage in these trolls but now I just find them kinda boring.
Oh well, I am sure there is another around the corner in the meantime.
I used to engage in these trolls but now I just find them kinda boring.
Oh well, I am sure there is another around the corner in the meantime.
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We used to call such people "Jack" (don't ask me why, as that "tradition" was in place when
I got here almost eight years ago .). They seem to want to destroy the foundation of those
who are weak in their faith, while putting forth that they themselves are saved, but any who
engages them, and dares to contradict them, are not. They were certainly clear enough about that.
I got here almost eight years ago .
). They seem to want to destroy the foundation of those who are weak in their faith, while putting forth that they themselves are saved, but any who
engages them, and dares to contradict them, are not. They were certainly clear enough about that.
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I cannot help myself but just to complicate the discussion even more it is not a belief system, a belief system will save no one, it is the
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname).
I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
person in whom one has entrusted their belief/ faith that is important.
That person being Christ Jesus. (Messiah Jesus, or Jesus the Messiah, it is not a name and surname
).I really do not think there was a single post where Frank was clear in his expression, so we may never know what he meant or if he even believed a word of what he wrote.
Yeah, I think someone was hitting the weed pretty hard. Could not make heads nor tails of what was being said. Of course we know Jesus is the only way, the only truth. I was trying to turn that ship around but may not have been clear enough.
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We used to call such people "Jack" (don't ask me why, as that "tradition" was in place when
I got here almost eight years ago .). They seem to want to destroy the foundation of those
who are weak in their faith, while putting forth that they themselves are saved, but any who
engages them, and dares to contradict them, are not. They were certainly clear enough about that.
I got here almost eight years ago .
). They seem to want to destroy the foundation of those who are weak in their faith, while putting forth that they themselves are saved, but any who
engages them, and dares to contradict them, are not. They were certainly clear enough about that.
Lol I remember Jack! Every troll got that name for so long. We should go back to that. I think it use to annoy trolls because we just dismissed them all as one person.
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