Behold the Beast System

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When AI takes control of decision making do you think it will act humanely?

  • No, it will be just like the AI that denies claims for the health insurance companies

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  • Yes, it will be a compassionate and loving AI that brings in a Utopia.

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ZNP

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INSANE MILESTONE! Figure 02 Makes Monumental Announcement!
 

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Imagine the Antichrist hunting down Christians with the assistance of ten thousand drones.
 

PennEd

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i have had some robo calls that sound very real, it has taken me a minute to figure out that it was an a i voice..
Ya know, thinking about my post, I guess if they DID fool me I wouldn’t have known it! LOL
 

ZNP

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Ya know, thinking about my post, I guess if they DID fool me I wouldn’t have known it! LOL
Yes, I think the reason they make many of the deep fakes so obvious is so that we become overly confident in our ability to spot them.
 

gb9

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Yes, I think the reason they make many of the deep fakes so obvious is so that we become overly confident in our ability to spot them.
good observation!
 

ZNP

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That's why it's pointless to attempt discussing this with you.
If you interpret Hosea 6 that says Jesus will return after 2 days as being 2,000 years who set the date? Hosea gave the prophecy I made an interpretation. It is impossible to interpret that verse without a possible date being associated with it.

When Jesus said this generation shall in no wise pass away until all these things be fulfilled, again there are many plausible and Biblical ways to interpret that which result in a date being set. Not by me but by Jesus.

I am not setting dates, I am interpreting scripture.

Daniel 9:27 tells us to look for an event that will mark the start of the 70th week. I have interpreted that event to have taken place on October 2, 2024. By definition that sets a date, but I didn't set the date, Daniel's prophecy did.

Joel tells us what takes place to alert us that the day of the Lord is at hand. I have interpreted that event to have taken place from 2020 to 2021, as a result I interpret the Feast of Trumpets in 2021 to be very prophetic. You can argue that this interpretation sets a date, but I didn't set the date, Joel's prophecy did. All I did was interpret current events and His prophecy.

Jeremiah tells us that summer is over, the winter is past and we are not saved. I interpret that as being a reference to those left behind after the rapture. That in turn gives you the season. It does not tell you the year, and I was not the one who said the season, Jeremiah did. All I did was interpret his word. Granted I can be wrong with my interpretation, many if not all Bible expositors have been wrong in the past. especially about eschatology. But I did not set a date, I interpreted scripture.

Based on Jonah I conclude that Jesus was crucified in 31 AD and that the 40 days of warning to Nineveh can be seen in 40 years of warning to Jerusalem. I also apply this to the nations and say from 70 AD to Armageddon will be 40 jubiless or 1,961 years. I am not setting a year, Jonah's prophecy sets the year, I simply am interpreting the scripture.

If you want to claim my interpretation is wrong, fine, provide a better interpretation. Saying my interpretation is wrong is one thing, that is your opinion, saying I am setting dates is not your opinion, it is simply false.

Now if this was 1700 or 1800 or even 1900 I can understand being averse to interpreting these scriptures. What is the point of telling people they will be long dead before the Lord returns. So I get why that would be forbidden. But that would have no bearing if we are in Jacob's trouble or in the seventieth week. People need to know now. Holding on to that rule is stupid once you get to the tribulation.
 

ZNP

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Sam Altmans STUNNING New Statement, EVERYTHING Is About to Change

I don't know if these people are stupid or are they just gaslighting us. The key inflection point is not when AI reaches AGI or ASI. Have these guys ever studied history?

The key inflection point is when AI achieves Artificial Specific Super Intelligence in warfare. These rulers and leaders are not going to sit around and twiddle their thumbs to find out which country wins this race. This race is for all the marbles. We already have ASSI in Chess and Go. Once you have tens of thousands of drones and robots and soldiers all connected by real time battlefield intelligence and the AI is operating all the tactics as well as coming up with superior strategy that army will win, they will rule the world, and then when the other benchmarks are achieved they will be the ones who benefit. That is what the war in Ukraine and the MidEast is all about, they are trying out their AI and drones.

So forget 2045, the real question is when does the US military arrive at this ASSI for warfare? Also, remember experts tell us that whatever we have today that is public knowledge is 20-25 years behind our government. Based on that when 911 took place in the US the military was where we are today and that was when the US government wrote them a blank check to retool our military. 20-25 years from now will be 2045 to 2050. According to Kurzweil that is when we hit the the singularity. If that is the case it seems to me the US military has already hit that singularity in tactical and strategic warfare using AI.
 

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@ZNP , since you mentioned Kurzwell, what are your thoughts on digital "immortality" and cryogenics?
 

ZNP

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@ZNP , since you mentioned Kurzwell, what are your thoughts on digital "immortality" and cryogenics?
Everything is going to change very quickly, but there will be no immortality or cryogenics. First comes the judgment.
 

ZNP

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Everything is going to change very quickly, but there will be no immortality or cryogenics. First comes the judgment.
I should clarify this, Revelation talks about those who long to die but can't. So there will be a curse on people where they are unable to die for a relatively short period of time.
 

ZNP

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ZNP

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I think the scariest thing is what this means for two thirds of the world. Think about how Asia has been manufacturing cheap goods with sweat shops. We have argued about if that is inhumane, but now everything they make in these sweat shops can be made by 3D printers. From the standpoint of after tax profits the 3D printer is more profitable with fewer headaches. It provides a higher level of satisfaction to your customer as they can order precisely what they want and have it delivered to their home in a matter of two or three days. By eliminating the shipping, trucking and retail costs of things manufactured in Asia the cost to the consumer is also less. You eliminate shrinkage, you eliminate items that don't sell.

If you take this manufacturing away from these countries what do they have left? Natural resources. But drilling for oil or mining for Lithium is high tech, with big machines and they are not going to want to process the material in unstable regions and countries. So although you will have some need of local labor, it will be minimal.

We are seeing the impact of this in China right now as their is a wholesale exodus from China of every company that can leave. 20% of the labor force in these countries can be laid off today. With the US we are seeing 5% as the AI and robots are still being trained. But there is no need for any of that with much of the manufacturing in Asia and Africa.
 

ZNP

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I have an idea for a great plot for an apocalyptic movie.

Imagine for a minute that they develop AI, it is great, it works in robots, it works running companies and everyone everywhere is using it extensively. However, you don't actually own it, you are leasing the robots and the AI is a subscription basis. Buried deep within the contract you learn the AI running everything actually belongs to the military. So everything that is being operated and run by AI is actually being operated and run by the military which at any moment could switch from intelligence gathering to rounding up and prosecuting those they deem are enemies of the state. Now they can't do this without the infrastructure for rounding up and sending millions of people to concentration camps. So you don't want to tip your hand about what you are doing but you need a good reason to put together the infrastructure for rounding up millions who are now enemies of the state. I got it. Let's say we have millions of illegals who have come into the US illegally, so we need to round them up, put them into camps and then deport them. Now we have the infrastructure we need. The irony is that the people you are rounding up for the concentration camps are the same ones that paid for the camps and wanted you to build them in the first place. The movie concludes as this guy is standing in line to be beheaded and realizes that he was the one that wanted all this and paid for it to be built.
 

Genipher

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I should clarify this, Revelation talks about those who long to die but can't. So there will be a curse on people where they are unable to die for a relatively short period of time.
Zombies, perhaps? At least, I heard that argued once.
 

ZNP

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I just heard a commercial for an online doctor. You call the doctor on the phone, they diagnose the condition and then prescribe the medication, send you a prescription which you can then use to get the medicine from the pharmacy.

Whether or not this is actually a person or AI it doesn't matter because it will be AI. For example, you could have a couple of doctors while AI is answering 100 phone calls. When they are done they could print out their diagnosis and prescription for the doctor to approve, then they could give it to the person on the phone.

They then call the person back a few hours later to see how they are doing. That could certainly be AI. If the total time spent on the phone for 100 patients was 2,500 minutes the amount of time that Doctors were involved might only be 100 minutes as they approve the diagnosis and prescription while AI is doing 2,400 minutes or 96% of the time.

Also this service is much cheaper than going to a clinic so you know every insurance company will have it on their plan and will be pushing people to do this.
 

ZNP

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17 minutes is a major milestone. In order to have a fusion reactor we need data. Yes, they have a reactor that works, but it will have to be run by AI which responds to the reaction and with that they will go through second my second evaluating this latest test. 17 minutes is 1,000 seconds, so they have a huge amount of data from this.

 

ZNP

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I just heard pundits on the MSM talking about Trump's $500 billion to AI saying "we have to do it because we have to keep up with China".

This is Pandora's box, it is opened, you can forget guardrails and legislation because "we have to keep up with China".

The Beast system is rising.