Becomes Trump a dictator?

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The restrainer stepping aside cannot be equated to the Holy Spirit leaving the earth because we are told that He will never leave nor forsake us. Instead I understand the restrainer to be the Body of Christ that is indwelt and filled with the Holy Spirit. It is people on earth moving and operating in the Holy Spirit that are restraining the spirit of Antichrist. When they are removed in the rapture then there is nothing to restrain the spirit of Antichrist.

But just as you said, if there are Christians here during the seven year period commonly referred to as "the tribulation" then the Holy Spirit must be here as well.


If the Holy Spirit will still be here in the great tribulation, that means we will still be here too. WE are the tribulation saints.

I don't know why most Christians won't face that truth. It's going to happen in our lifetime. Now is not the time to pretend it won't.


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If the Holy Spirit will still be here in the great tribulation, that means we will still be here too. WE are the tribulation saints.

I don't know why most Christians won't face that truth. It's going to happen in our lifetime. Now is not the time to pretend it won't.


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I don't disagree with that, the word tribulation is taken from the Greek word tribulum which was a heavy roller used to crush wheat to separate the kernels from the chaff.

But what I don't get about those who deny a pretribulation rapture is their total ignorance of the Old Testament. The priest has to be separated and taken to the tabernacle for seven days to be sanctified. Prior to the day of Judgment, the day of atonement, seven days before hand the high priest is taken to the temple chamber to be kept safe and to rehearse the procedure for the day of atonement. Both of those laws are a shadow of a rapture seven years before the day of judgment.
 
I don't disagree with that, the word tribulation is taken from the Greek word tribulum which was a heavy roller used to crush wheat to separate the kernels from the chaff.

But what I don't get about those who deny a pretribulation rapture is their total ignorance of the Old Testament. The priest has to be separated and taken to the tabernacle for seven days to be sanctified. Prior to the day of Judgment, the day of atonement, seven days before hand the high priest is taken to the temple chamber to be kept safe and to rehearse the procedure for the day of atonement. Both of those laws are a shadow of a rapture seven years before the day of judgment.


No one needs to even know that stuff. Satan always tries to make explanations super complicated in hopes the hearers will get confused and just accept his crap.

It's simple. The rapture is after the great tribulation, at the last trumpet. That's it. God doesn't want us confused.

Time is so close, we can just wait to see what the rapture position really is. If the antichrist shows up before the rapture does and we're still here - everyone will know the pre-trib rapture doctrine is false! If they're not too busy panicking!


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No one needs to even know that stuff. Satan always tries to make explanations super complicated in hopes the hearers will get confused and just accept his crap.

It's simple. The rapture is after the great tribulation, at the last trumpet. That's it. God doesn't want us confused.

Time is so close, we can just wait to see what the rapture position really is. If the antichrist shows up before the rapture does and we're still here - everyone will know the pre-trib rapture doctrine is false! If they're not too busy panicking!


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No, Satan is the one telling people they don't need to know the word of God.
 
At the time of Jacob's trouble three books are opened, the book of the righteous, they do not need to be here during the Great tribulation, or even during the last seven years. When they are raptured it is the opening of the sixth seal.

Revelation 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; 13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. 14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. 15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: 17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?


the second book is the book of the wicked. They will go to hell. The third book is the book of sinners, they do need to go through the tribulation to sort out where they are going.
 
No, Satan is the one telling people they don't need to know the word of God.

At the time of Jacob's trouble ...

<--- long drawn out explanation no one needs --->​

... to sort out where they are going.


The cues for the real post-trib rapture are simple because of this:

Many people will be saved during the great tribulation. Everyone will know the pre-trib rapture is false by then! No long drawn out confusing explanations would be required!

The the group of veteran Christians who were believers before the great tribulation have to teach the new Christians discipleship. So they have to keep it simple and sweet.

Also note most Christians during the great tribulation, veteran or new, will die because of the antichrist. Most of us will not be "those who are alive and remain"....

All the new Christians who are "those who are alive and remain" simple need a few facts to know and watch for concerning the true rapture:
  • that the rapture will be AFTER the great tribulation
  • there will be a loud command
  • with the voice of the archangel
  • at sound of the last trumpet

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The cues for the real post-trib rapture are simple because of this:

Many people will be saved during the great tribulation. Everyone will know the pre-trib rapture is false by then! No long drawn out confusing explanations would be required!

The the group of veteran Christians who were believers before the great tribulation have to teach the new Christians discipleship. So they have to keep it simple and sweet.

Also note most Christians during the great tribulation, veteran or new, will die because of the antichrist. Most of us will not be "those who are alive and remain"....

All the new Christians who are "those who are alive and remain" simple need a few facts to know and watch for concerning the true rapture:
  • that the rapture will be AFTER the great tribulation
  • there will be a loud command
  • with the voice of the archangel
  • at sound of the last trumpet

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Time will tell,

I think it will be next to impossible to preach the gospel during the tribulation, at most 3-4 months. The people who will get "saved" are those who have already heard the word and because they saw the rapture they repent for being lukewarm.

I agree that most will not be those who are alive and remain. Revelation talks about first fruits, general harvest, and gleanings. Those who are alive and remain will be the gleanings.
 
The cues for the real post-trib rapture are simple because of this:

Many people will be saved during the great tribulation. Everyone will know the pre-trib rapture is false by then! No long drawn out confusing explanations would be required!

The the group of veteran Christians who were believers before the great tribulation have to teach the new Christians discipleship. So they have to keep it simple and sweet.

Also note most Christians during the great tribulation, veteran or new, will die because of the antichrist. Most of us will not be "those who are alive and remain"....

All the new Christians who are "those who are alive and remain" simple need a few facts to know and watch for concerning the true rapture:
  • that the rapture will be AFTER the great tribulation
  • there will be a loud command
  • with the voice of the archangel
  • at sound of the last trumpet

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I would say that you will find no christian during the great tribulation, because they are raptured before.
 
I would say that you will find no christian during the great tribulation, because they are raptured before.


I see that false teaching has crossed the pond to Europe. I'm sorry that it has infected your country too.

The rapture is post-trib per what the Bible says but it's not popular because no one wants to think about what that means and all the terrible things that go with it.

But the last days are practically upon us, so I'll just let the prophecy prove itself: The antichrist will be revealed and we'll still be here with no pre-trib rapture in sight.


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I see that false teaching has crossed the pond to Europe. I'm sorry that it has infected your country too.

The rapture is post-trib per what the Bible says but it's not popular because no one wants to think about what that means and all the terrible things that go with it.

But the last days are practically upon us, so I'll just let the prophecy prove itself: The antichrist will be revealed and we'll still be here with no pre-trib rapture in sight.


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Well, we will see 😀
 
I dont know how you americans see this. In europe at seems that Trump and Musk doing everything for to fight against democracy and freedom to encrease their own Power and influence.


If you are from Germany, you know how when Hitler gave his hate speeches of various individuals, the crowds cheered. That cheering crowd who hated other people were Hitler's base. The same thing happened here, when our current Fuhrer gave his hate speeches, his MAGA base could be seen cheering. They are hate mongers of other people, and all else is secondary. Thus, you cannot convince his MAGA base of anything wrong about him. What would you think of someone who has raped dozens, if not hundreds of little girls, and yet his MAGA base continue to stand by him as if he is some sort of saint?
By the way for your information, a recent executive order was put out by our new federal government that allows municipalities to get rid of people who are without means. I have seen many YouTube videos here, where the homeless are being disappeared. And not just the homeless sleeping in the streets; there are videos of Nomad campers who live in their vans and camp miles from civilization whom federal authorities are going out to these wilderness locations, and are harassing the nomads to move on. Much like Hitler did with his executive order against gypsies.
 
I see that false teaching has crossed the pond to Europe. I'm sorry that it has infected your country too.

The rapture is post-trib per what the Bible says but it's not popular because no one wants to think about what that means and all the terrible things that go with it.

But the last days are practically upon us, so I'll just let the prophecy prove itself: The antichrist will be revealed and we'll still be here with no pre-trib rapture in sight.


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Good day 2ndTimeIsTheCharm,
As God is love (1 John 4:8 & 16), and by loving our neighbor as we do ourselves (Matthew 22:39), we are known as Christian, having true faith in God/love;-- individuals who then otherwise believe in hating their neighbor, and are Anti love of their neighbors, are therefore Antichrists.

1 John 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

1 John 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
 
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Where are all the right-wing podcasters who used to preach about the military being deployed on US streets? They were going to arrest US citizens and corral them into concentration camps. Now that it's actually happening, it's crickets. I think some of them are in Donald's administration. Kamala Harris was right, it's here folks.

I agree.
 
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If you are from Germany, you know how when Hitler gave his hate speeches of various individuals, the crowds cheered. That cheering crowd who hated other people were Hitler's base. The same thing happened here, when our current Fuhrer gave his hate speeches, his MAGA base could be seen cheering.


They are hate mongers of other people, and all else is secondary.

Thus, you cannot convince his MAGA base of anything wrong about him. What would you think of someone who has raped dozens, if not hundreds of little girls, and yet his MAGA base continue to stand by him as if he is some sort of saint?


By the way for your information, a recent executive order was put out by our new federal government that allows municipalities to get rid of people who are without means.


I have seen many YouTube videos here, where the homeless are being disappeared. And not just the homeless sleeping in the streets; there are videos of Nomad campers who live in their vans and camp miles from civilization whom federal authorities are going out to these wilderness locations, and are harassing the nomads to move on. Much like Hitler did with his executive order against gypsies.

They are hate mongers of other people, and all else is secondary.
Yes they are.

Thus, you cannot convince his MAGA base of anything wrong about him. What would you think of someone who has raped dozens, if not hundreds of little girls, and yet his MAGA base continue to stand by him as if he is some sort of saint?

Seems that way. Some people here say they were whores (even though some were under age and trafficked) as though that lessens the crime.

I wonder if these brainwashed MAGA supporters will fall on their knees and repent for the horrid man they helped put into office.
At least there are some who are, so I guess we can be thankful for that.

I noticed that just as more information, was released about the disgusting birthday book to Epstein, in which Trump had a cryptic message, it fell off the radar with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

It will come back and those who have continually and consistently defended DT should hang there heads in shame but doubtful.
 
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People everywhere who don't relish the idea of a US under the thumb of Trump and Musk should pray that God will stop their efforts. God raised up Pharaoh in Egypt to show His power. Pharaoh got away with a lot of despicable things before God stepped in a put a stop to it. He can do the same thing today.

I can think of another well-known dictator a little closer to our own time. God allowed him to flourish for a season then put an end to him too.

What makes you think Trump and Elon are longing to become dictators?

Also isn't it improbable that they could even gain the power to do so?
 
Yes they are.



Seems that way. Some people here say they were whores (even though some were under age and trafficked) as though that lessens the crime.

I wonder if these brainwashed MAGA supporters will fall on their knees and repent for the horrid man they helped put into office.
At least there are some who are, so I guess we can be thankful for that.

I noticed that just as more information, was released about the disgusting birthday book to Epstein, in which Trump had a cryptic message, it fell off the radar with the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

It will come back and those who have continually and consistently defended DT should hang there heads in shame but doubtful.
I wonder if the vile individual in question, has anything to do with the vile individual in Daniel 11:21 ???

Daniel 11:21 And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.