Based on the following information, what denomination would you suggest to me?

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Beliefs:

Triune God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Jesus is God; Three in One (1 John 1:1)
Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected three days later for the forgiveness of sins.
Salvation should be followed by repentance.
Broken relationships need to be reconciled quickly.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Though not a biblical thing; preference to diversity and inclusion.
 

Subhumanoidal

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Skip denominations. I see some on this site that are more inclined to preach their denomination than the gospel.
Believe what you believe and scratch the man made labels.
 

shittim

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None whatsoever, personal relationship with Jesus Christ. After you have establishes a personal relationship with Jesus Christ ask Him where He would have you go to be His representative, to be His hands and feet demonstrating His love to all.
Churches and denominations are where we went off track leading to His foreknowledge and allowance of this "reset" to get back to right practice of Christianity.
 

Lynx

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*Lynx scratches behind an ear with a hind claw and considers the question for a while...


Well, depending on how far you want to take that bit about diversity and inclusion, I'd say Methodist. They had a big split recently and some of them are so inclusive now that they even let homosexuals be preachers. Can't get much more inclusive than that.
 
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*Lynx scratches behind an ear with a hind claw and considers the question for a while...


Well, depending on how far you want to take that bit about diversity and inclusion, I'd say Methodist. They had a big split recently and some of them are so inclusive now that they even let homosexuals be preachers. Can't get much more inclusive than that.
I think I was more referring to race issue on diversity. All too often I see all black churches or all white churches or all Latino churches (though I'd probably still go to the all-Latino ones...they're pretty cool), but rarely a mix.
I'm still not sure what I think on the homosexuality issue....that's been quite the difficult thing for me to digest; though I came from a secular world so would have leaned towards acceptance; it's still something I struggle to understand biblically.
 

Lynx

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Uh... sorry missufan01, I was being facetious. 97% of what I say is not to be taken seriously. I'm only serious about 3% of the time.
 

shittim

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You've missed what I posted, when we accept Christ we are no longer our own, we are His, and we go where He would have us go, do what He would have us do.
This happened locally, a local church asked it's members "what is your opinion on the homosexuality", as a Christian we no longer have an "opinion" , we have a position and it is based on the Word of G-d and our relationship with the person of Jesus Christ, where we learn that "male and female He created them".
There is no longer Jew, nor Greek, Male nor female, we are all one in Christ.
 

Subhumanoidal

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I think I was more referring to race issue on diversity. All too often I see all black churches or all white churches or all Latino churches (though I'd probably still go to the all-Latino ones...they're pretty cool), but rarely a mix.
I'm still not sure what I think on the homosexuality issue....that's been quite the difficult thing for me to digest; though I came from a secular world so would have leaned towards acceptance; it's still something I struggle to understand biblically.
Racial segregation in churches tend to be more self inflicted. Black people tend to gravitate to black people, as well as the style of service more common in black churches. Same with whites and Latinos. My gf is an islander and goes to a church made of islanders. It's natural.
Also considering people are prone to go to nearby churches. So a church near or in a black community will obviously have mostly black people.
Some churches take a purposeful stance to mix, but you'll still need to ensure they have good teaching. I went to a church like that once, but ended up having to walk out of the service due to bad teaching.

As far as homosexuality, in the OT God calls it an abomination. That makes it a pretty bad sin in God's eyes. It's not the way humanity was created to be, therefore it defies God's intention for humanity.
 

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Beliefs:

Triune God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Jesus is God; Three in One (1 John 1:1)
Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected three days later for the forgiveness of sins.
Salvation should be followed by repentance.
Broken relationships need to be reconciled quickly.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Though not a biblical thing; preference to diversity and inclusion.
Pick a church, many state their belief in kind like a mission statement , learn what you can then visit another one when you feel led and see what they got for a while .. Stay in prayer and the Word
 

shittim

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This"reset" He is allowing the world to experience is being used to bring people back to Him in personal relationship, we are not to forsake meeting together in His Name yet way to often the "church" we have come to know has become a golden calf of sorts, we worship that way and expect G-d to be pleased when He had no presence in it, recently at a local church I have met with Pastor and others and prayed that Holy Spirit come and be present, bringing healing, blessing, wisdom, truth, understanding, etc. then wait upon the Lord, He will surely come. Work on this at home, go to the church He sends you and sit in back (to observe) then invite Holy Spirit to come, watch what G-d does .
 
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Beliefs:

Triune God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, Jesus is God; Three in One (1 John 1:1)
Jesus died on the cross and was resurrected three days later for the forgiveness of sins.
Salvation should be followed by repentance.
Broken relationships need to be reconciled quickly.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
Though not a biblical thing; preference to diversity and inclusion.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but I have a couple questions.

How do you understand repentance to be defined? Do all relationships need to be mended? What do you like about diversity inclusion? Are you suggesting that a homogeneous group of people is bad?
 
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repentance follows confession and is a turning away from sin.
I would say, so long as the trespasser is repentant, then most should be reconciled. Biblically speaking, Corinthians even points us to a story of incest in which he taught reconciliation; however I am with reservations on this based on the culture of abuse and rape; and in such case would not find it wise; so in essence I would say reconcile, unless there are extreme cases. The Bible says we ought to not just welcome the repentant back, and forgive, but ALSO comfort, so they do not fall into deep sorrow---in other words, depression....and yet, here we stand without over 90% of Christians refusing reconciliation, for even the smallest of sins; alongside an all time high depression rate. This is no coincidence. In fact, when you hear 90% of sermons on reconciliation out there--it is almost always about between God and man...which is great! But they completely avoid the reconciliation with other brothers part...which actually negates the first one since God says you cannot love God and hate your brother.
And no, hate is not how you feel...so when you say I don't hate him/her, I just don't want to be friends...you're saying you hate with your actions. Love and hate has ALWAYS been defined by actions more than words, biblically speaking. Some people say hate is the absence of love--I would say hate is the withholding of love.
Well, in theory, every group of people is bad...because we're all sinners; The reason I prefer diversity is that it speaks volumes to a godless racist world looking for hope.
 
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@mlssufan01 the part I am interested in the most in your latest reply is your stance on repentance. I am interested if you lean more toward faith-based salvation or works-based salvation. There is a lot of material to cover, but I found a very short YouTube video from a ministry called GotQuestions. As far as I can tell they are good. Please take a look at the following video and maybe share your thoughts? Thank you.

 
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@mlssufan01 the part I am interested in the most in your latest reply is your stance on repentance. I am interested if you lean more toward faith-based salvation or works-based salvation. There is a lot of material to cover, but I found a very short YouTube video from a ministry called GotQuestions. As far as I can tell they are good. Please take a look at the following video and maybe share your thoughts? Thank you.

I would agree with the video, but I would add that at the initial repentance there is a recognition and hatred toward sin; while turning away from sin doesn't save you at initial salvation there should be a revelation about your sin; in some way almost like the first initial repentance/salvation occurs simultaneously; but yes also repentance about your disobedient past.

However, what should really be brought up here is the person who says they believe in Jesus, but continue willfully sinning; partying, drinking, immoral, divisive, and the like. For such as these this calls into question whether they are repentant...because it is apparent there is no conviction of the Holy Spirit; this generally causes me to call into question what they believed at salvation. Hint: they never say repentance.

As for both definitons--technically both definitions would still be true; because denying Jesus Christ is a sin; so the initial repentance is stil turning from sin; but it is turning from all your past sins. This would further confirm the simultaneous salvation/repentance model.