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“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19 KJV
They did baptize in the name of father , son and Holy Ghost
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
Acts 19:5 KJV
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
There is one name it’s Jesus name in his is father son and Holy Ghost, father son or Holy Ghost arent names , Jesus is the name. Of father son And Holy Ghost together in one.
“I and my Father are one.”
John 10:30 KJV
“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
2 Corinthians 3:17 KJV
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Galatians 3:27
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
Romans 6:3 KJV
They were told to baptize in the name of
Father son Holy Ghost , they are one and the name is Jesus it isn’t new age it’s just. What they did in the beginning notice there are no verses where anyone was baptized in three titles of God but always in his one name
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
John 1:1 KJV
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
John 1:14 KJV
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”
John 1:12 KJV
“but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”
John 20:31 KJV
Jesus made his name known was the point. Baptism is meant to be in the. Name of Jesus because it’s the name of God the father , son and Holy Ghost.
Matthew 28:19 KJV
They did baptize in the name of father , son and Holy Ghost
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
“When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.”
Acts 19:5 KJV
“But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”
Acts 8:12
“For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.”
Colossians 2:9 KJV
There is one name it’s Jesus name in his is father son and Holy Ghost, father son or Holy Ghost arent names , Jesus is the name. Of father son And Holy Ghost together in one.
“I and my Father are one.”
John 10:30 KJV
“Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.”
2 Corinthians 3:17 KJV
“For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”
Galatians 3:27
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
Romans 6:3 KJV
They were told to baptize in the name of
Father son Holy Ghost , they are one and the name is Jesus it isn’t new age it’s just. What they did in the beginning notice there are no verses where anyone was baptized in three titles of God but always in his one name
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
John 1:1 KJV
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth.”
John 1:14 KJV
“But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”
John 1:12 KJV
“but these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”
John 20:31 KJV
Jesus made his name known was the point. Baptism is meant to be in the. Name of Jesus because it’s the name of God the father , son and Holy Ghost.
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I find it ironic that here we are debating the words that should be said when someone gets baptized. Maybe we should stop debating words and start baptizing.
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Being born again is when your spirit is re-birthed by the spirit of God, INTO the Spirit of God, ... becoming "one with God".. "In Christ".
God causes this, and this is the "washing of regeneration" that is the spiritual baptism.
When this has happened, you are born again.
NOW... ... next...go and get water baptized, as this is your self identification as := "the old man is crucified with Christ" and the new man, born again spiritually, is risen with Christ.
God causes this, and this is the "washing of regeneration" that is the spiritual baptism.
When this has happened, you are born again.
NOW... ... next...go and get water baptized, as this is your self identification as := "the old man is crucified with Christ" and the new man, born again spiritually, is risen with Christ.
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And you are missing the point also. A name may be tantamount to what ever you are saying.... but that does not equate to Isaiah 9:6 "He shall be called"
If you read what Jesus supposedly said in Matthew it is a direct command based on the following verse.
Matt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Going back to the original point that this was being addressed (starting with Chi-town in #30) ....Why did the apostles not follow the formula or words that Jesus instructed them to do? that is the question. ....They followed His instructions from Acts 1:4 ....commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
It's not a question on anything other than that.
And like I stated other than what Eusebius quoted to Constantine.... I did not find anything contradictory to what is written although I tend to believe that originally it stated in my name and not….. the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit ….but that is because..... that is what the Apostles baptism in.
If you read what Jesus supposedly said in Matthew it is a direct command based on the following verse.
Matt 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Going back to the original point that this was being addressed (starting with Chi-town in #30) ....Why did the apostles not follow the formula or words that Jesus instructed them to do? that is the question. ....They followed His instructions from Acts 1:4 ....commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
It's not a question on anything other than that.
And like I stated other than what Eusebius quoted to Constantine.... I did not find anything contradictory to what is written although I tend to believe that originally it stated in my name and not….. the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit ….but that is because..... that is what the Apostles baptism in.
“Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.”
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
“for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
Matthew 26:28 KJV
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
Acts 10:43 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( for our sins )
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: (the souls that sinned have died )
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.”
Romans 6:3-4, 6
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV
“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
1 Peter 2:24-25
“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.”
John 10:15-16, 27-30 KJV
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
and be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
Ephesians 4:21-24 KJV
Ezekiel 18:4 KJV
“for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
Matthew 26:28 KJV
“To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”
Acts 10:43 KJV
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins,
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”
Acts 2:38 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( for our sins )
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: (the souls that sinned have died )
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin.”
Romans 6:3-4, 6
“For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”
2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV
“who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins,
should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
1 Peter 2:24-25
“I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: and I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.”
John 10:15-16, 27-30 KJV
“Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
“if so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus: that ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
and be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
and that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.”
Ephesians 4:21-24 KJV
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it’s hard to remain in a box when comments start to open things up , but also I apologize if I get off track to the op.
it seems discussion leads to more and differing lines of thinking I rarely ever seen a post here that remains specifically on topic of they do it’s about three comments long.
it seems discussion leads to more and differing lines of thinking I rarely ever seen a post here that remains specifically on topic of they do it’s about three comments long.
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The phrase "in the name of" simply means by the authority of. So, when the Apostles did baptized " in the name of" Christ, they were claiming by the authority of Christ that specifically says baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost and that nothing contradicts at all.
By immersion, once.
And this a response to already been converted.. not the means of conversion. A symbol of what Christ does for the believer. The immersion.. symbolising the burial.. the coming out of the water.. symbolising the resurrection of Jesus.
As to Holy Spirit baptism.. this happened to already saved GROUPS of believers in Acts.. and wasn't about receiving eternal salvation. At Pentecost the disciples got this baptism, who were already converted believers. And they were not individuals alone.. but as an assembled group.
Think about the difference between the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.. coming 'upon' a believer and being 'in the midst' of a church.
Different things... not all roles to do with eternal salvation.. except the first of indwelling.
So.. immersion baptism.. that is after salvation and done once. Holy Spirit baptism? Happened to groups, churches.
Oh.. if the baptism is done without the right authority on the part of the person baptising.. and is not immersion.. then it need to be done again.
And this a response to already been converted.. not the means of conversion. A symbol of what Christ does for the believer. The immersion.. symbolising the burial.. the coming out of the water.. symbolising the resurrection of Jesus.
As to Holy Spirit baptism.. this happened to already saved GROUPS of believers in Acts.. and wasn't about receiving eternal salvation. At Pentecost the disciples got this baptism, who were already converted believers. And they were not individuals alone.. but as an assembled group.
Think about the difference between the Holy Spirit indwelling a believer.. coming 'upon' a believer and being 'in the midst' of a church.
Different things... not all roles to do with eternal salvation.. except the first of indwelling.
So.. immersion baptism.. that is after salvation and done once. Holy Spirit baptism? Happened to groups, churches.
Oh.. if the baptism is done without the right authority on the part of the person baptising.. and is not immersion.. then it need to be done again.
Once. And if people do it again after being once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, then they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
God is a consuming fire.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
God is a consuming fire.
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I find it ironic that here we are debating the words that should be said when someone gets baptized. Maybe we should stop debating words and start baptizing.
It is written, o vain man, that whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Verily, you have proven unto me that a reproof entereth more into a wise man than an hundred stripes into a fool.
Not according to Paul in Acts 19:1, "Have you received the Holy Ghost SINCE you believed?" Clearly Paul's question makes the point that believing does not automatically result in receiving the Holy Ghost. The entire experience recorded in Acts 19:1-6 provides further confirmation of this truth. The group believed in Jesus, were rebaptized in water in the name of the Lord Jesus and afterward received the gift of the Holy Ghost and spoke in tongues and prophesied.
What a shameful misrepresentation of Scripture!
Here are verse 5-6 WITH the words you conveniently left out:
"And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."
Here are verse 5-6 WITH the words you conveniently left out:
"And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."