Baptism should accompany confessions of faith
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The baptism isn't the announcement. You can do the announcement with the baptism; but it doesn't have to be that way. When Paul was baptized, there's no indication there was a cloud of witnesses- Ananias said "WHY TARRIEST THOU? ARISE AND BE BAPTIZED"
I used think it should be a public event too; but then I realized why some "pastors" et. al. might want to insist that it needs to be public.
I used think it should be a public event too; but then I realized why some "pastors" et. al. might want to insist that it needs to be public.
Paul said there is one baptism, but we all know there is a baptism of water and a baptism of holy spirit. Which one is he referring to, or do they both accomplish the same thing, ie immersion into Christ's death?
There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Ephesians 4:4-6
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Good grief, this is such a misunderstanding/misapplication of this scripture.... go back and read all of it, so you can have the context of what Paul was talking about..
He was NOT saying that baptism was not needed.... in fact, baptism is the FIRST thing he did, upon regaining his sight, after not eating or drinking for three days.... it was that important to him.....
What Paul is trying to say in this passage was "don't treat me like some kind of person to hold in reverence".... people there were arguing about who was a "better Christian"..... based on who they followed, and who baptized them... Paul was telling them that was silly, and wrong. THAT is why he was glad he didn't baptize any more of them than he did, so they would not set up some kind of exclusive club of "followers of Paul"...
He was NOT saying that baptism was not needed.... in fact, baptism is the FIRST thing he did, upon regaining his sight, after not eating or drinking for three days.... it was that important to him.....
What Paul is trying to say in this passage was "don't treat me like some kind of person to hold in reverence".... people there were arguing about who was a "better Christian"..... based on who they followed, and who baptized them... Paul was telling them that was silly, and wrong. THAT is why he was glad he didn't baptize any more of them than he did, so they would not set up some kind of exclusive club of "followers of Paul"...
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Yeah I get that, but I think it's pretty evident from him saying that he was not sent to baptize in water that it wasn't the focus of his ministry, otherwise I think we would have heard more about it, like if you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth and be baptized in water you shall be saved.
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Were they preaching the gospel and baptizing in water after Jesus died and rose ?
“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 8:35-38 KJV
My point is they weren’t practicing the wrong baptism and there’s only one baptism one spirit in one lord one name ect Peter wasn’t either here when he commanded gentile believers to get baptized in water even after they received the Holy Ghost
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
There’s just baptism Jesus partook of the right baptism after he died and rose he was able to baptize us from heaven with his spirit that’s not what we’re commanded to do it’s what he alone does from heaven we’re commanded to baptize in his name that does include water yes and Roman’s six will explain what it means for us who get baptized in Jesus name
“Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”
Acts 8:35-38 KJV
My point is they weren’t practicing the wrong baptism and there’s only one baptism one spirit in one lord one name ect Peter wasn’t either here when he commanded gentile believers to get baptized in water even after they received the Holy Ghost
“Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.”
Acts 10:47-48 KJV
There’s just baptism Jesus partook of the right baptism after he died and rose he was able to baptize us from heaven with his spirit that’s not what we’re commanded to do it’s what he alone does from heaven we’re commanded to baptize in his name that does include water yes and Roman’s six will explain what it means for us who get baptized in Jesus name
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I encourage everyone to be baptized. There's really no reason not to and it will spare someone from having doubts about it in the future. But I'm starting to wonder if God wasn't sending a message with the house of Cornelius in Acts 10 that the Jewish ritual of water immersion was just that, a ritual. Rituals don't, can't save us. Only immersion into Christ's death can and does, and realistically, only God does that.
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I think it's totally foolish not to get baptized. Not for theological reasons, but for conscience's sake. Why give the accuser an open door to create doubt about salvation? Get baptized and put the issue to rest forever. Then the accuser can never create doubt in your mind about the matter
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It has meaning consider this and it’s conformity think of the core foundations of our faith
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
and that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
now consider baptism , a man of God buries you beneath the water in Jesus name because you believe he died for your sins . Then you are raised up again from the water in Jesus name who rose again because you believe he rose again after he died for our sins which is the price for sin , death .
now listen to pauls doctine regarding those who were baptized into Jesus by his name
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( he died for our sins )
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: ( when we’re buried beneath the surface of the water in his name )
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, ( buried beneath the surface in his name ) we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,( death ) but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”( resurrection or “new birth “ fresh start without your sin that was remitted in jesus name )
Romans 6:3-6, 11 KJV
It’s an action of faith we do it only because we heard and believe the gospel and that’s part of the doctrine . If god tells us to do something and we do it because we believe what he told us will happen , it’s not ritual it’s an act of faith because and only because we believe jesus died for our sins was buried and rose again .
Paul writes more about baptism and those who were baptized on his name but the above there shows how what we believe jesus does and rose for us . And what we then do based on that belief get baptized into his name for remission of sins
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( what we do )
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( what God gives us )
Acts 2:38 KJV
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
and that he was buried,
and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:”
1 Corinthians 15:3-4 KJV
now consider baptism , a man of God buries you beneath the water in Jesus name because you believe he died for your sins . Then you are raised up again from the water in Jesus name who rose again because you believe he rose again after he died for our sins which is the price for sin , death .
now listen to pauls doctine regarding those who were baptized into Jesus by his name
“Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? ( he died for our sins )
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: ( when we’re buried beneath the surface of the water in his name )
that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, ( buried beneath the surface in his name ) we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin,( death ) but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.”( resurrection or “new birth “ fresh start without your sin that was remitted in jesus name )
Romans 6:3-6, 11 KJV
It’s an action of faith we do it only because we heard and believe the gospel and that’s part of the doctrine . If god tells us to do something and we do it because we believe what he told us will happen , it’s not ritual it’s an act of faith because and only because we believe jesus died for our sins was buried and rose again .
Paul writes more about baptism and those who were baptized on his name but the above there shows how what we believe jesus does and rose for us . And what we then do based on that belief get baptized into his name for remission of sins
“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, ( what we do )
and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.”( what God gives us )
Acts 2:38 KJV
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