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Unitas said:
A good question :)

I will try to define it, but it isn't easy for me, and my words may be understood differently by others than what is my intention.

I trust in a law of life, that makes me have peace when I'm able to give up the idea of having a self, because I trust that I then follow the law of life best.

It's an understanding I've come to by listening, reading and sensing.

Do I know it's the truth? No. But I trust it's the right direction for me, and that it will open up for further understanding to follow it.
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It sounds like you are an intuitive person who is following, for lack of a better word, something within yourself, the true source of which you are unaware, yet trust in while seeking and hoping to discover. What will you do if and when you find the Biblical God you now reject, is the source of that which you are seeking? Yes, it is a bit of a rhetorical question. Yet deep down in every man, woman, and child, is the fundamental idea of God, and the process of seeking (even while being an enemy of God in the natural un-regenerated state) may help you clear the clouds that block your mind and spirit from seeing the Light of the Son. Jesus used a lot of agricultural analogies. To follow His example, I would say the ground/soil/condition of your mind is being plowed, the stony ground of pure intellectualism and "natural" human sentiment being dug into and slowly softened and overturned, while seeds are being sown, and Light being brought in, but you are as yet unready. God will know when you are, and when the time comes, I pray that you are/will be prepared to lay down your opposition to Him.
 
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Magenta said:
It sounds like you are an intuitive person who is following, for lack of a better word, something within yourself, the true source of which you are unaware, yet trust in while seeking and hoping to discover. What will you do if and when you find the Biblical God you now reject, is the source of that which you are seeking? Yes, it is a bit of a rhetorical question. Yet deep down in every man, woman, and child, is the fundamental idea of God, and the process of seeking (even while being an enemy of God in the natural un-regenerated state) may help you clear the clouds that block your mind and spirit from seeing the Light of the Son. Jesus used a lot of agricultural analogies. To follow His example, I would say the ground/soil/condition of your mind is being plowed, the stony ground of pure intellectualism and sentiment being dug into and slowly overturned, while seeds are being sown, and Light being brought in, but you are as yet unready. God will know when you are, and when the time comes, I pray that you are/will be prepared to lay down your opposition to Him.
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I will be happy to find the truth in the biblical God. It will make it easier for me to build relations with other Christians.
 
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Unitas said:
I will be happy to find the truth in the biblical God. It will make it easier for me to build relations with other Christians.
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I hope that is true. It was not for me, even after multiple encounters with God. However, it came to a point where I could no longer deny that I was/had been running from the very Truth I was seeking. I had good relationships with Christians, a least some Christians, with whom I was friends, but I had no desire at the time to become one of them :giggle: Until I surrendered my opposition to God ;)
 
Unitas said:
I will be happy to find the truth in the biblical God. It will make it easier for me to build relations with other Christians.
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To say the biblical God makes it seems that there are other Gods. There is only one God.

And one does not get to know Him just for the purpose of building relationships with Christians.

You clearly want nothing to do with God, so why are you so attracted to Christian people? What is your motivation?

Would you marry a Christian?
 
Meanwhile I'm trying to get this guy banned for saying a 72 year old man deserves to be assaulted by the police
 

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Unitas said:
Hi :)

It's an interesting quote you bring up. And I would agree with it.

I will try elaborate my view. Yes, we should be allowed to follow what feels right. That I believe will be able to bring us peace. But, it doesn't mean, that what we follow is the right path to peace. It's a process that makes us able to experience what we truly are. Some will find it, and I think many will not.

During my life, I have wandered far away from where I am now. But it made me able to understand the direction I followed, and the direction that feels better for me. Like in the parable of the lost son, we sometimes need to feel the consequences of our life, before we are able to see that it is a wrong direction.

Have I found the right direction? Partly. I see am following an illusion about a self, that I'm trying to let go off. Some will say, I need to believe in Christ. That still isn't what seems correct for me. But maybe it once will. Maybe it will not.

All of this is of course my opinion. But my opening question in thread was, if we are allowed to have our own opinions in here, despite of differences. And in that case we can also ask, if a person that is seeking towards peace, should be banned, just because others don't agree with his current direction, but he wants to listen and share with them.
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My Personal POV is that Christians should share Christianity with seekers and be very tolerant and patient towards unbelievers who are genuine in their seeking.. But once it becomes clear that a person is not really interested in the Message of God and is more intent on promoting and spreading their non - Christian beliefs then that person should be shown the door.. This is a Christian web site dealing mostly with interactions / discussions/ debates between people who believe in Jesus.. And we deal with genuine seekers who have legitimate questions about Christianity.. Beyond that, i for one am not interested in coming into a Christian web site and spending all my time opposing preaching muslims / hindus / bhuddists and catholics ectera..

If Christians are spending all their time arguing with people of other religions then they end up ceasing to have fellowship with other Christians and they cease to grow in the faith and this web site will end up as a vehicle for anti-christ to promote anti-Christian teachings and cults..

So in brief.. Yeah people can hold what ever religious or unbelieving views in here and even explain their beliefs for the benifit of Christians who need to know what the unbeliever believes so as to help them respond to their beliefs.. But once it is clear that Christian responses are having no discernible effect on an unbeliever then the unbeliever should be removed from the site.. And in fact if the unbeliever came to find out what Christiaity is and has decided to reject the message of the LORD Jesus Christ then their is no real profit for them to continue at a Christian website anyway..
 
Kim82 said:
To say the biblical God makes it seems that there are other Gods. There is only one God.

And one does not get to know Him just for the purpose of building relationships with Christians.

You clearly want nothing to do with God, so why are you so attracted to Christian people? What is your motivation?

Would you marry a Christian?
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Hi again Kim :)

First of all, I used the phrase "Biblical God" because I was answering a message where that was used.

Secondly, I do believe in God. Just not as separated and personal. My motivation for using the chat and forum on Christian Chat is to be inspired. I can explain that further if you want to.

Could I marry a Christian? I don't see why a Christian belief would be a problem for me. But my belief might be a problem for my Christian partner :)

I hope this answers your questions.
 
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My Personal POV is that Christians should share Christianity with seekers and be very tolerant and patient towards unbelievers who are genuine in their seeking.. But once it becomes clear that a person is not really interested in the Message of God and is more intent on promoting and spreading their non - Christian beliefs then that person should be shown the door.. This is a Christian web site dealing mostly with interactions / discussions/ debates between people who believe in Jesus.. And we deal with genuine seekers who have legitimate questions about Christianity.. Beyond that, i for one am not interested in coming into a Christian web site and spending all my time opposing preaching muslims / hindus / bhuddists and catholics ectera..

If Christians are spending all their time arguing with people of other religions then they end up ceasing to have fellowship with other Christians and they cease to grow in the faith and this web site will end up as a vehicle for anti-christ to promote anti-Christian teachings and cults..

So in brief.. Yeah people can hold what ever religious or unbelieving views in here and even explain their beliefs for the benifit of Christians who need to know what the unbeliever believes so as to help them respond to their beliefs.. But once it is clear that Christian responses are having no discernible effect on an unbeliever then the unbeliever should be removed from the site.. And in fact if the unbeliever came to find out what Christiaity is and has decided to reject the message of the LORD Jesus Christ then their is no real profit for them to continue at a Christian website anyway..
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Hi :)

From the perspective of a person being here to promote other views of life than a Christian, I fully agree with your view.
 
Unitas said:
Hi :)

From the perspective of a person being here to promote other views of life than a Christian, I fully agree with your view.
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Promoting other views may get you in trouble, since as has been said quite a few times already, this site is meant for Chrisians to discuss our views and differences in how we view Scripture, fellowship with each other, pray for others, share our testimonies etc.
 
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Unitas said:
. . . I do believe in God. Just not as separated and personal.
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Hello again, Unitas. I am curious to know why you do not believe in a personal God... or am I not understanding what you mean by this? Is your belief anything like Deism, which asserts that God does not intervene or interact with His creation? Could you clarify?
 
Magenta said:
Promoting other views may get you in trouble, since as has been said quite a few times already, this site is meant for Chrisians to discuss our views and differences in how we view Scripture, fellowship with each other, pray for others, share our testimonies etc.
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That is why I agree with the person, that a user that wants to promote another view of life than the Christian, shouldn't be using this forum :)
 
Magenta said:
Hello again, Unitas. I am curious to know why you do not believe in a personal God... or am I not understanding what you mean by this? Is your belief anything like Deism, which asserts that God does not intervene or interact with His creation? Could you clarify?
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I guess my belief is based on focusing on where I am, instead of trying to base my life on an understanding I can't know.

P.S.: Morning :)

P.P.S.: I do not know, if God intervenes in life or how.
 
Unitas said:
I guess my belief is based on focusing on where I am, instead of trying to base my life on an understanding I can't know.

P.S.: Morning :)
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Good morning :D It is almost midnight here ;)

Still trying to undersand what you mean, "an understanding you can't know." Do you think God cannot be known?

Or are you simply saying you cannot profess to understand that which you do not possess?
 
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