Ball Earth conundrums

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Gideon300 said:
*sigh* you have zero evidence to back up your claim and you reject everything that demonstrates how wrong the FE concept is. So you believe something without a shred of evidence and reject the bleeding obvious. And you think that I've been duped! Go look in the mirror. You will find the root of the problem there.
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Who said anything about FE? I am talking about BE.

The 'claim' - made by others - is that the earth is a spinning ball flying through space.

I say it is a false claim. I see no proof for it. I see a lot of made-up crap that "doesn't hold water" next to real actual physics.

The conundrums presented in this thread point out the discrepancies between the Ball Earth model and real actual physics.

The evidence against it rests in the simple fact that no one can give me a good answer to the conundrums presented in this thread.

The purpose of this thread is to "call out" all of the hard-nosed Ball Earth believers. I am telling all of you that your Ball Earth theory doesn't work.

The conundrums - not having any good answers given - is 'evidence' enough to show that the Ball Earth theory is false. Moreover, it shows that you believe something you cannot show has complete cohesion with real actual physics. Because, if it did, you could give a satisfactory explanation to the conundrums presented in this thread. Otherwise, you simply believe something you cannot explain.
 
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GaryA said:
If you cannot answer my question,
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Your questions make even less sense than your supposed answers. Quite a remarkable feat really, one that would make even the most apish knuckle dragging troglodyte blush.
 
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GaryA said:
No - they are complicit.
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Frankly medical so-called science does not offer any effective remedies for paranoia.
Fresh air, sunshine and exercise is the best medicine.

Good luck and I wish you well......(y)
 
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cv5 said:
Your questions make even less sense than your supposed answers. Quite a remarkable feat really, one that would make even the most apish knuckle dragging troglodyte blush.
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Are you saying that you confess that your "superior intellect" cannot handle my simple questions concerning something you indicate you know supremely? :D
 
GaryA said:
Are you saying that you confess that your "superior intellect" cannot handle my simple questions concerning something you indicate you know supremely? :D
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God having hung the earth in nothing, there is no force that should act on it as it spins to make your hypothetical airplane fly backward the moment it lifts off the spinning ground into the spinning air.

in a similar way you, sitting in a car traveling a constant 100mph, are not constantly thrown into the rear windshield - all the air inside your car is traveling along with you.

If you open your window and put your hand out it, you'll feel the air outside pushing it backwards for sure - but outside the 'window' of the sky? void. nothing to be applying a transverse force.

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GaryA said:
The evidence against it rests in the simple fact that no one can give me a good answer to the conundrums presented in this thread.
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I think the case is that you refuse to accept any answers, not that none exist or have been given to you.

That's the conundrum.
 
GaryA said:
Who said anything about FE? I am talking about BE.

The 'claim' - made by others - is that the earth is a spinning ball flying through space.

I say it is a false claim. I see no proof for it. I see a lot of made-up crap that "doesn't hold water" next to real actual physics.

The conundrums presented in this thread point out the discrepancies between the Ball Earth model and real actual physics.

The evidence against it rests in the simple fact that no one can give me a good answer to the conundrums presented in this thread.

The purpose of this thread is to "call out" all of the hard-nosed Ball Earth believers. I am telling all of you that your Ball Earth theory doesn't work.

The conundrums - not having any good answers given - is 'evidence' enough to show that the Ball Earth theory is false. Moreover, it shows that you believe something you cannot show has complete cohesion with real actual physics. Because, if it did, you could give a satisfactory explanation to the conundrums presented in this thread. Otherwise, you simply believe something you cannot explain.
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I have provided irrefutable evidence to you that the earth is a globe. Your inability to accept the facts is the issue. The only conundrum is why you persist in a blatantly false idea that was proven wrong over 2,000 years ago.
 
GaryA said:
No - laughter is the best medicine.
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GaryA said:
The evidence against it rests in the simple fact that no one can give me a good answer to the conundrums presented in this thread.
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I don't think posting this in the conspiracy section of a theological website constitutes any kind of experiment that valuable conclusions can be drawn from.

It's lucky there are even a handful of people here who can talk intelligently about the topic.

Have you posted in physics stackexchange?
 
posthuman said:
God having hung the earth in nothing, there is no force that should act on it as it spins to make your hypothetical airplane fly backward the moment it lifts off the spinning ground into the spinning air.
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But, why is the air spinning? What has such a hard-lock grasp on every molecule of the atmosphere - turning it in sync with the earth - the higher you go, the faster it is turning - to create the resulting effect of "being still above the earth" (local wind currents notwithstanding).

posthuman said:
in a similar way you, sitting in a car traveling a constant 100mph, are not constantly thrown into the rear windshield - all the air inside your car is traveling along with you.

If you open your window and put your hand out it, you'll feel the air outside pushing it backwards for sure - but outside the 'window' of the sky? void. nothing to be applying a transverse force.
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The air inside the car is trapped by the car and carried with it.

As much as you would like to label the atmosphere around a globe as the 'inside' air in your example, it does not work that way. It is actually the outside air in your example. Otherwise, what "traps" the atmosphere around the earth such that it gets carried with it as it turns? What pushes the atmosphere 'sideways' in perfect sync all the way from the ground to the vacuum of space?

'gravity' cannot push anything (high above the earth) 'sideways'

posthuman said:
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'101' says there is nothing in existence that pushes the atmosphere 'sideways' at every height above the ground in perfect sync with the turning of the earth.
 
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posthuman said:
I think the case is that you refuse to accept any answers, not that none exist or have been given to you.
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Please show me the post where you explained how the atmosphere at every height gets pushed 'sideways' in perfect sync with the earth.
 
Gideon300 said:
I have provided irrefutable evidence to you that the earth is a globe. Your inability to accept the facts is the issue. The only conundrum is why you persist in a blatantly false idea that was proven wrong over 2,000 years ago.
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Your 'evidence' may be irrefutable to you - but, it is not to me.
 
posthuman said:
It's lucky there are even a handful of people here who can talk intelligently about the topic.
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Yeah - too bad they are all folks who do not believe 'Ball Earth'. (Hmmm - maybe there is an association here...)

It would be nice if there were some 'Ball Earth' folks on here who where not afraid to consider the conundrums...

No doubt you have heard that saying about the sign of intelligence being the ability to consider a thing without necessarily believing it...?

Not many 'Ball Earth' folks on here that seem willing to even consider the possibility that they just might be wrong in their belief in 'Ball Earth'.
 
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GaryA said:
But, why is the air spinning? What has such a hard-lock grasp on every molecule of the atmosphere - turning it in sync with the earth - the higher you go, the faster it is turning - to create the resulting effect of "being still above the earth" (local wind currents notwithstanding).


The air inside the car is trapped by the car and carried with it.

As much as you would like to label the atmosphere around a globe as the 'inside' air in your example, it does not work that way. It is actually the outside air in your example. Otherwise, what "traps" the atmosphere around the earth such that it gets carried with it as it turns? What pushes the atmosphere 'sideways' in perfect sync all the way from the ground to the vacuum of space?

'gravity' cannot push anything (high above the earth) 'sideways'


'101' says there is nothing in existence that pushes the atmosphere 'sideways' at every height above the ground in perfect sync with the turning of the earth.
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inertia:

an object in motion tends to stay in motion unless acted on by an outside force.

outside the sky is vacuum:

Job 26:7
He stretches out the north over empty space; He hangs the earth on nothing.

no outside force is opposing the rotation of the air mass.
 
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