As Close To The Devil In Example As You Can Get.

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You don't wish to vote?

Voting is a waste of time.

People are evil these days so they support and want evil.

It's how the one world government and the anti-christ will come to be - that's what the majority of people want.

Christians should be spending their time trying to win the Lost and making disciples



This type of engineered thinking on your part is really just a hate filled rant on Trump

Some of Trump's polices are great

But sadly he's always trying to make deals so it's just a mater of time before he makes some deals that benefit the devil
 
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Voting is a waste of time.

People are evil these days so they support and want evil.

It's how the one world government and the anti-christ will come to be - that's what the majority of people want.

Christians should be spending their time trying to win the Lost and making disciples

Some of Trump's polices are great

But sadly he's always trying to make deals so it's just a mater of time before he makes some deals that benefit the devil

You are entitled to your opinions. No need to preach as though we don't know what scripture states. I prefer people who have a logical approach and can explain their conclusions without using the Bible as a crutch. Now, is it legit to use scripture to reach conclusions? Most certainly. BUT to reply to me with such general statements does nothing at all for convincing anyone. I know what scripture states. But if I didn't? you would be just one more person running around saying 'the sky is falling. the sky is falling.'

Voting is not a waste of time. You said it. You own it. It's all yours. If a person does not vote, they should just keep silent IMO. You seem to forget that as long as we are still in a state of grace on planet earth, God has not yet assigned the evil to come as a current. As far as evil goes, the Bible says this:
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
said Jesus.
Matt. 24:24

Frankly, I am not a maga Trump person and his deal to end the war with Ukraine and demonic Putin, is lopsided to put it mildly and I have to wonder just what is really going on. I think T thinks too much of himself and I have never believed him to be a Christian. I was taught critical thinking and that is largely lacking from most people these days. And often enough, those who do know how to observe, draw conclusions and read between the lines, sadly use it for evil.

We have sheeple. The Bible says so.
 
No need to preach as though we don't know what scripture states.

Many don't



I prefer people who have a logical approach and can explain their conclusions without using the Bible as a crutch.

Sad to hear what the Lord has to say about things is garbage to you. Very sad for you.



I know what scripture states.

Not so much seeing you just claimed it's a crutch which is another way of saying God's Word is meaningless.




you would be just one more person running around saying 'the sky is falling. the sky is falling.'

Those that know God's Word understand bad things are afoot and the end of this age is at hand and the majority of people in the world are on their way to hell.

Those claiming things are wonderful are the ones caught up in the zeitgeist who will applaud the coming of the anti-christ and will claim he is a great man that all should follow, embrace, and worship



If a person does not vote, they should just keep silent IMO.

Actually the ones that vote need to answer for the crazy things the politicians they voted for are doing.

And, the joke is one those who believe we have fair and free elections laughing15.gif



As far as evil goes, the Bible says this:
For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.
said Jesus.
Matt. 24:24

Which of course account for why most churches teach false doctrine.




Frankly, I am not a maga Trump person and his deal to end the war with Ukraine and demonic Putin, is lopsided to put it mildly

OK then, so let's get geared up to take Putin out and launch nuclear holocaust upon the entire world.

Smooth move exlax! Ukraine has no leverage. They either sue for peace or eventually get taken over

You fail to understand that this can easily turn in to WW3 which at least Trump is smart enough to understand which is why he's trying to get the war concluded even if it means Ukraine gives up some territory which is not an issue for the US that they do this.

Trump really needs to stop all aid to Ukraine and let Europe deal with it as we need to fix our own nations many problems.




those who do know how to observe, draw conclusions and read between the lines, sadly use it for evil.

Yeah, the belief that God's Word is meaningless does cause evil.
 
Many don't





Sad to hear what the Lord has to say about things is garbage to you. Very sad for you.





Not so much seeing you just claimed it's a crutch which is another way of saying God's Word is meaningless.






Those that know God's Word understand bad things are afoot and the end of this age is at hand and the majority of people in the world are on their way to hell.

Those claiming things are wonderful are the ones caught up in the zeitgeist who will applaud the coming of the anti-christ and will claim he is a great man that all should follow, embrace, and worship





Actually the ones that vote need to answer for the crazy things the politicians they voted for are doing.

And, the joke is one those who believe we have fair and free elections View attachment 282512





Which of course account for why most churches teach false doctrine.






OK then, so let's get geared up to take Putin out and launch nuclear holocaust upon the entire world.

Smooth move exlax! Ukraine has no leverage. They either sue for peace or eventually get taken over

You fail to understand that this can easily turn in to WW3 which at least Trump is smart enough to understand which is why he's trying to get the war concluded even if it means Ukraine gives up some territory which is not an issue for the US that they do this.

Trump really needs to stop all aid to Ukraine and let Europe deal with it as we need to fix our own nations many problems.






Yeah, the belief that God's Word is meaningless does cause evil.

Love it when people swing in all directions just hoping they will hit something. You did! You hit my not worth responding to button.
 
Love it when people swing in all directions just hoping they will hit something. You did! You hit my not worth responding to button. Get some fresh air. Not interested in arguing (you jumped right to argue from debate) with someone because they find it powerful and it hits their ego oh mighty keyboard warrior.
Skidaddle

Yeah, it's too bad some folks get upset when others don't agree with them.

They get their feelings hurt, take their ball and go home.

You kept replying so I kept replying back.

If you don't want to discuss any further then quit replying.

You can handle that, right?
 
Yeah, it's too bad some folks get upset when others don't agree with them.

They get their feelings hurt, take their ball and go home.

You kept replying so I kept replying back.

If you don't want to discuss any further then quit replying.

You can handle that, right?

I discuss or debate with those who have something to say. You have hit on Calvinists, OSAS, Putin, Trump, the end of the world and various other of what appears to be your general disatisfaction with things you cannot control. You do this in the Bible Discussion Forum with no actual scripture for reference.

I replied to your post to me in this and the other thread. It sounds to me like you have some kind of personal axe to grind and wish to bait someone until they get angry. I am not that person but I can assure you, there are people here who will take you up on your offer to throw hands and maybe one of you will be banned. It happens often enough.

I suggest you try to find someone in the 15 to 21 year old range so that you have a chance at coming out ahead.

Now, I don't usually make it a point to say when I put someone on ignore, but you have made that a pleasure in this case.
 
It sounds to me like you have some kind of personal axe to grind and wish to bait someone until they get angry.

That's what the paranoid claim.

Might I suggest that you only interact with those who agree with whatever you say.

That way you can always feel good about yourself and not get your feelings hurt.

You certainly wouldn't want to engage with anybody who does not see everything as you do.

Most people just state their piece and move on, but you do you.
 
I know you love me and didn't but that is the problem with a generalized quote it includes everyone and even I know that there are some good Republicans who don't agree with what trump is doing and I do try not to generalize myself toward the other side although one of our current posters will now search all my quotes and prove I am a liar I'm sure but I really try not to generalize.
You are certainly not a liar. Anyone who calls you a liar is a liar.
 
I pray God will give you an empathetic heart as you have decided who I am without knowing me. I already explained why I had to choose the Democratic party and because I'm a registered Democrat doesn't mean I go along with all their ideas. But I try to be logical and reason with people something you don't understand. You say Dems teach white privilege have you looked at the White House lately? Nothing but white privilege there plus billionaires. Oh, is that it? You are a billionaire?
I am far richer than any billionaire. There is no one on earth I'd trade places with. No worldly government is righteous. We get to choose the lesser of two evils. I'm glad I'm not an American who has to choose between Mr Trump or Kamala Harris. Or worse, Hilary Clinton.

From my observations as an outsider, it seems to me that Mr Trump is slightly the lesser of two evils. Only God can make America great again and Mr Trump is not God. However, you choose as you see fit. Personally, I can't overlook the slaughter of the innocent and the selling out of a nation to its enemies. The problem with unrestrained immigration is that enemies can come in as well as the genuine refugees. Europe is paying the price for that; the UK is pretty much a Muslim republic. America should learn from them.
 
Non sequitor if I ever saw one. You get called out on your op and then rather then continue to defend your opinions, which of course you can post, you relaspe into false conclusions. You stand on your own. If you think Christians should not participate in any political party, then own it but don't try to make it seem anyone else said that. You don't wish to vote? Then don't and own that too.

God is not in control of bad choices people make whether or not they refer to themselves as Christians.

I will state my opinion on the title of your op. AS CLOSE TO THE DEVIL AS YOU CAN GET. On second thought I don't think I can state my opinion on that title without getting in trouble with a mod. This type of engineered thinking on your part is really just a hate filled rant on Trump wherein you hide behind scripture in a weak attempt at defending what you think are God's observations. You don't have to love Trump and you don't have to point out what other people are doing; in your words 'worshipping' him in order to excuse your own vitriol and personal apparent actual hatred. Own that too.

Go ahead and post as much scripture as you want but let's not pretend that is anything more than your deflection of your own emotions and not some actual God acquired authority to compare the man to the devil. (I know you did not say God told you anything, but the way you have chosen scripture to try and say Trump is as close to the devil as you can get, is close to an attempt to claim godly authority without actually saying you have it.

Own it. All of it and that's fine. But please do own it and don't cast aspersions on others. It's just you. ALL you.


Thanks for the slap down feel better now?
 
O Bummer mocked the Bible and sang the praises of the Satanic Koran.
He pretended to go to church to deceive the American public. They fell for it.
no, Obama did not mock the bible. you're just making that up

meanwhile the great orange one had church members tear gassed so he could have a photo op and hold a Bible upside down in front of the church.
 
Thanks for the slap down feel better now?

How could anyone feel better reading your op? Like I said, own your opinion and don't try to make excuses for it. Apparently, you don't like that but that is also something you own. I'm not in charge of your feelings and neither is anyone else.
 
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How could anyone feel better reading your op? Like I said, own your opinion and don't try to make excuses for it. Apparently, you don't like that but that is also something you own. I'm not in charge of your feelings and neither is anyone else.

I do own it if I didn't I would not have posted this to start with. I stand by what I wrote wouldn't change a thing.
 
Do not take it too personal, this is very typical.


I don't for the most part. Christians can be some of the meanest people out there. I almost quit the site two weeks after I started back in 2013/2014. I was sitting at my table and talking to God and said these Christians can be really mean. But He reminded me that I am a seed planter and maybe I could do some good and learn a few things along the way so I stayed.

Have met and made some nice friends here and even shared some face time with Willy and his wife until he passed.

So I come and go now just to check in and stir the pot once in a while.