Are you a sinner?

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I just read in worthy news that a group of Christians in America have just recently confessed and said Christians are sinners. They did this as if it's shocking, like its unbelievable.

In my Christian life I know that all are sinners. The Christian man and those who are not with God. This has been how it's always been. "For all have fallen short of the glory of God.", "And if we say we have no sin, we make him to be a liar."

I have had sin, and done sin, and done it again after I claimed beleif to Father of risen Son Jesus. I have stood in beleif and lost thought of belief and done my own thing. Gone through many troubles, tragedies, still being here on earth, which not one can escape troubles here, at least I haven't, I can only speak for me in my experiences and reactions to things good or bad. Troubles can and have and probably will again happen here on earth fro now.
It is better for me too gp home to Father and Son, yet still here. God knows why, it is God's plan, not mine, I am willing to stay or go, I trust God to lead and teach me
1 John 2:27, anyone else? Luke 21:14-15, Mat 10:16-20, Phil 1:6
Will we give up this life here on earth to God to lead and stay with us, never leave us each as others have and do?
God loves us all, otherwise Son would not have gone to that cross at all willingly
Nevertheless Father, not my will, yours be done. Can you say that personally to god from within you? I trust God for you to see this love beyond troubles, thank you Father
 
This is a catch - 22 situation. Both are true.

This is false here --Folks ---there is only one truth ----there is not 2 truths ---One is true the other is False ----

If your Saved and your life is hidden in Christ who is not a Sinner ---the you are not a sinner ----your a Saint -----

Colossians 3:3-15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

For you died [to this world], and your [new, real] life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

God deems you a Saint cause you died to sin ------

Be careful what you call yourself Folks -------God's warning here -----

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Who reflection are you seeing ---the old SINNER OR THE NEW SAINT -----

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I just read in worthy news that a group of Christians in America have just recently confessed and said Christians are sinners. They did this as if it's shocking, like its unbelievable.

In my Christian life I know that all are sinners. The Christian man and those who are not with God. This has been how it's always been. "For all have fallen short of the glory of God.", "And if we say we have no sin, we make him to be a liar."

One major problem with their and your statement: When saved, we are cleansed of our sins, and become reborn as a new person. The chains of sin that binds sinners to death are broken upon our salvation. The precious blood of Jesus cleanses us and makes us worthy to be called the sons of God!

Now, if you want to identify as a sinner...well there is free will. However, if you do so, I strongly suggest you get down on your knees and pray that Jesus comes into your life freeing you from the bondage of sin.

To be clear, no human is perfect, and even believers will slip now and again, but that does not make them "sinners" as Scripture defines sinners. It makes them human. All one has to do is acknowledge the slip, ask God to forgive them and strive to live a Christ like life! Some will say we don't have to ask God to forgive our slips because of OSAS. Jesus begs to differ with them.

Matthew, Chapter 6:
After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

10Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

11Give us this day our daily bread.

12And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

13And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

14For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

15But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.


I'm going with what Jesus said to do!

 
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This is false here --Folks ---there is only one truth ----there is not 2 truths ---One is true the other is False ----

If your Saved and your life is hidden in Christ who is not a Sinner ---the you are not a sinner ----your a Saint -----

Colossians 3:3-15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

For you died [to this world], and your [new, real] life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

God deems you a Saint cause you died to sin ------

Be careful what you call yourself Folks -------God's warning here -----

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Who reflection are you seeing ---the old SINNER OR THE NEW SAINT -----

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Colossians 3:3-15 actually supports the opposite truth from how you interpret it.
Paul--addressing saints--instructs them to stop sinning and start loving (v.8-9),
because their sinful self is being renewed--a lifelong process (v.10, Phil. 3:12-15).

The mirror illustrates God crediting believers with the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 3:21-5:1),
which is one truth, but the other truth is that believers do not attain instant moral perfection.
Surely you will admit that is true in your case, too? Thus the one truth includes two sub-truths.
 
We sin yes but God calls us saints because of what Christ has done for us so are we sinners? yes and no we are sinners as in we sin but our identity is saint
 
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Surely you will admit that is true in your case, too? Thus the one truth includes two sub-truths.

I admit that I am A Saint who occasionally sins ----But I do not admit that I am A SINNER _____

There is but ONE TRUTH -----

If your a Sinner ---your not Righteous before God ----

If Your a Saint you are righteous before God ------

so you cannot be Righteous before God and Unrighteous before God at the Same time the Same time ---

there is one truth --for the Saint -----and one truth for the Sinner -------

NASB: Holy, saints, holy place, holy one, sanctuary, Holy of Holies
Word Origin: [from hagos "an awful thing"]

1. sacred
2. (physically) pure
3. (morally) blameless
4. (religious, ceremonially) consecrated
So your Theory of 2 Truths here are false pertaining to a Saint -----A Saint is Holy ----A Sinner us unholy


Strong's concordance on SINNER
Concept and Scope

Strong’s 268 designates the person identified as “a sinner,” one who lives in deviation from God’s revealed will ---
humanity, separated from God, stands under judgment unless reconciled through the promised Redeemer.


Strong's Concordance on Saint

NASB: Holy, saints, holy place, holy one, sanctuary, Holy of Holies
Word Origin: [from hagos "an awful thing"]

1. sacred
2. (physically) pure
3. (morally) blameless
4. (religious, ceremonially) consecrated

So the Sinner is under Judgment ---and the Saint is Blameless -------

Can't be under judgment and be blameless at the same time -------one truth ----for the Saint ---one truth for the Sinner ---ONE Truth -----

1 John 3:6 states that "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him


What is it that you don't get here ---------

No one who abides in him keeps on sinning

no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him
 
Romans 3:23- "for ALL have sinned....."! Romans 3:10- "there is NONE righteous, no NOT 1"! atheists & believers will always be sinners. the difference is a Christian's sins are forgiven because Jesus died on the cross that our sins be forgiven. the difference is that, 1st, a Christian will not want to sin but still will & soon repent afterward thru the Holy Spirit's communication & one's conscious. unrepentant sin is never forgiven. atheists sins are non-repentant so their sins are unforgiven. Christians do not willfully sin but in bad times sins are committed because he or she briefly gave up & back slid. but it's never forever. a hard core Christian's conscious, heart, mind, soul, & spirit will convict them even before they sin, while they are sinning & especially after. repentance is quick.
 
The outer man is born in sin. It cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
The inner man can be renewed every day.
The one who strives toward the high calling of God in Christ Jesus will make it.
We MUST press toward that goal.
 
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The outer man is born in sin. It cannot inherit the Kingdom of God.
The inner man can be renewed every day.
The one who strives toward the high calling of God in Christ Jesus will make it.
We MUST press toward that goal.
And it is an ongoing process but one that we absolutely must strive for.
 
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I admit that I am A Saint who occasionally sins ----But I do not admit that I am A SINNER _____

There is but ONE TRUTH -----

If your a Sinner ---your not Righteous before God ----
If Your a Saint you are righteous before God
------
so you cannot be Righteous before God and Unrighteous before God at the Same time the Same time ---
there is one truth --for the Saint -----and one truth for the Sinner -------

NASB: Holy, saints, holy place, holy one, sanctuary, Holy of Holies
Word Origin: [from hagos "an awful thing"]

1. sacred
2. (physically) pure
3. (morally) blameless
4. (religious, ceremonially) consecrated
So your Theory of 2 Truths here are false pertaining to a Saint -----A Saint is Holy ----A Sinner us unholy

Strong's concordance on SINNER
Concept and Scope
Strong’s 268 designates the person identified as “a sinner,” one who lives in deviation from God’s revealed will ---
humanity, separated from God, stands under judgment unless reconciled through the promised Redeemer.
Strong's Concordance on Saint

NASB: Holy, saints, holy place, holy one, sanctuary, Holy of Holies
Word Origin: [from hagos "an awful thing"]

1. sacred
2. (physically) pure
3. (morally) blameless
4. (religious, ceremonially) consecrated

So the Sinner is under Judgment ---and the Saint is Blameless -------
Can't be under judgment and be blameless at the same time -------one truth ----for the Saint ---one truth for the Sinner ---ONE Truth -----
1 John 3:6 states that "No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him


What is it that you don't get here ---------
No one who abides in him keeps on sinning
no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him

Well, 1 John 3:6 should not be understood as teaching moral perfection will be achieved during this earthly sojourn,
but I get it, so I will plug it in to what I say on our website regarding this topic (see bolded citation below):

No one achieves moral perfection in this life (Phil. 3:12), but no one who lacks divine love will reap eternal life with God (Gal. 6:7-8). Thus, a person who claims to be godly but who is behaving in an ungodly (unloving, untruthful) manner may be in one of the following categories:

a. a normally loving person observed during a rare moment when he/she acted uncharacteristically (Phil. 3:12-16),

b. an immature Believer, who is making progress–you should have known him/her a year ago! (1Cor. 3:1-3, Eph. 4:11-15)

c. a truthseeker who has not yet learned the correct interpretation of God’s Word (1Cor. 6:9-11, Eph. 5:8-9), or

d. a pseudo-Christian (Matt. 7:21, 1John 2:19), who may affirm morality while rejecting its divine rationale.

e. an apostate (1John 2:19, Heb. 6:4-6), who once believed but became blasphemous or foolish and ship-wrecked their faith
(1Tim. 1:19-20).

Paul listed some sins he implied genuine Christians would not typically commit (in 1Cor. 6:9-10), saying: “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived, neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.”

Apparently, although a new Christian might commit such sins occasionally, it is inconceivable (because antithetical to NT teaching) that a mature Christian would commit them so typically that the person could be classified as an adulterer, for example (1John 3:6). Atheists might try to practice the “Golden Rule”, but the key issue for them on judgment day will be explaining what good reason they had for rejecting God rather than glorifying Him as the One who determines what is good/golden.

Sinners can overcome selfishness only by becoming one with Christ via faith in Him/God as Lord and thereby sharing His goodness because of union with His/God’s Holy Spirit. This spiritual union is denoted by references to those who have saving faith as children of God the Father (Rom. 8:14-16). This is why Christianity is a relationship with God motivated by gratitude for God’s grace (Psa. 100, Eph. 2:4-8) rather than a legalistic religion of working to merit God’s mercy because of fear of punishment.
 
1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.

7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.


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1 John 3:4 Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness. 5 But you know that he appeared so that he might take away our sins. And in him is no sin. 6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.

7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.


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We know that sin cannot enter into heaven. Part of accepting Jesus Christ was confessing that we are sinners. And part of the confession was repentance.

I understand the argument that we are no longer sinners, but saints. Flawed saints.
 
This is false here --Folks ---there is only one truth ----there is not 2 truths ---One is true the other is False ----

If your Saved and your life is hidden in Christ who is not a Sinner ---the you are not a sinner ----your a Saint -----

Colossians 3:3-15 Amplified Bible (AMP)

For you died [to this world], and your [new, real] life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is our life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

God deems you a Saint cause you died to sin ------

Be careful what you call yourself Folks -------God's warning here -----

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Who reflection are you seeing ---the old SINNER OR THE NEW SAINT -----

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Whether one sins again or not. the fact is:
All have sinned, all need God and the new life happens through the risen Jesus Christ given us by Father God, to be new in and love to all in the same mercy and truth given us through Son's reconciliation given (2 Cor 5:16-20)
Noting verse 16, we once knew Christ Jesus in the flesh, today no more. Only known in Spirit an dTruth now y'all
And Jesus is the way, the truth and the new life offered u all to stand in as if never sinned, even though I know I have, and can again, beign in an unredeemed body presently. Yet reckon the first born me as dead daily, to be alive to God Father in risen Son daily, at least for me this I am being taught and have been taught to trust God Father and Son alone, not even myself, thank you, I know nothing, god knows it all, I stand right there in humility, confidently
John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
 
Colossians 3:3-15 actually supports the opposite truth from how you interpret it.
Paul--addressing saints--instructs them to stop sinning and start loving (v.8-9),
because their sinful self is being renewed--a lifelong process (v.10, Phil. 3:12-15).

The mirror illustrates God crediting believers with the righteousness of Christ (Rom. 3:21-5:1),
which is one truth, but the other truth is that believers do not attain instant moral perfection.
Surely you will admit that is true in your case, too? Thus the one truth includes two sub-truths.

GWH: I see this: I have no righteousness, none of my own ever, I need the mercy and love of God 24/7 daily
I am not righteous, God is, having no righteousness of my own ever
Yet having righteousness, that is not mine. It is God's alone, the only one good, the Father of Son, who said this truth too in Matthew 19 to that rich man, why call me good, only my Father is good, repeated in the other Gospels too.
Therefore having no righteousness of my own, I see to glory in my iniquities and thank God for God's grace as sufficient for me and everyone else as well, not use my iniquities fro any gain here on. earth.
Thank you Father Psalms 100:4, 103:12, Ezekiel 36:26
Otherwise I have no chance whatsoever, so nevertheless less, not my will Father, yours be done, and on Jesus went and took all the scourging of flesh and blood that plays as if God, all the way never denying God Father ever. Now risen where new life begins in each person that believes and will not quit, even if in any adversity as well
 
GWH: I see this: I have no righteousness, none of my own ever, I need the mercy and love of God 24/7 daily
I am not righteous, God is, having no righteousness of my own ever
Yet having righteousness, that is not mine. It is God's alone, the only one good, the Father of Son, who said this truth too in Matthew 19 to that rich man, why call me good, only my Father is good, repeated in the other Gospels too.
Therefore having no righteousness of my own, I see to glory in my iniquities and thank God for God's grace as sufficient for me and everyone else as well, not use my iniquities fro any gain here on. earth.
Thank you Father Psalms 100:4, 103:12, Ezekiel 36:26
Otherwise I have no chance whatsoever, so nevertheless less, not my will Father, yours be done, and on Jesus went and took all the scourging of flesh and blood that plays as if God, all the way never denying God Father ever. Now risen where new life begins in each person that believes and will not quit, even if in any adversity as well

I agree that only God is righteous, and we are forgiven because of faith in Christ's atonement, whereupon God credits believers with sharing his righteousness. However, Paul said we should not use this truth as an excuse for not striving to become morally mature
(Gal. 5:13-26, Phil. 3:12-16).
 
We know that sin cannot enter into heaven. Part of accepting Jesus Christ was confessing that we are sinners. And part of the confession was repentance.

I understand the argument that we are no longer sinners, but saints. Flawed saints.

How, about truth. From Father's view now, by Son for usSon remain forgiven by God not people. Col 1:21-23
So, when you or I or others sin again, we from God through Son remain as if never sinned, even though one knows they did it again, not wanting to, Romans 7 Ask Dad, how to walk new, not self or others of flesh and blood too, Thank you 1 John 2:27
Then Romans 8, that might be well for thy soul to re-rerad Chapter 6
 
I agree that only God is righteous, and we are forgiven because of faith in Christ's atonement, whereupon God credits believers with sharing his righteousness. However, Paul said we should not use this truth as an excuse for not striving to become morally mature
(Gal. 5:13-26, Phil. 3:12-16).
From a contrite heart, one begins the journey in this amazing grace given to see to not ever use for any self gain in it, thanks