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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
 

Magenta

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1 Corinthians 9 verse 22b I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
 

Eli1

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You mean do I need an Israeli passport to be called a child of God?
No, I don’t need an Israeli passport to be called a child of God.

Our citizenship belongs in Heaven.

Philippians 3:20-21
 

JaumeJ

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The ultimate meaning of each of th titles mentioned are, From across the river, which as many say today when one passes away, he or she has crossed over Jordan.
Israelite would be one who rules with God. Finally a Jew is anyone who truly praises God.
On that last note, we have bright light shed upon the warning in Revelations, "Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are really a synagogue of Satan."
The meaning of the word, synagogue, is nor something that applies to a congregation stuck on the OT, no, it is simply an assembly.
We should always put ourselves in the time of Jesus Yeshua teaching on the earth to understand what is being conveyed.

Once more I pass along something very important about Israel,. The Israel of today is not the Israel with the New Jerusalem, the Israel of God. It is the staging gourd for the coming into being of the words of Relation, that is, the destination of Sateen to rule from, though ever so briefly.

Do not be fooled by that wicked place on our global maps today.
 
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The ultimate meaning of each of th titles mentioned are, From across the river, which as many say today when one passes away, he or she has crossed over Jordan.
Israelite would be one who rules with God. Finally a Jew is anyone who truly praises God.
On that last note, we have bright light shed upon the warning in Revelations, "Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are really a synagogue of Satan."
The meaning of the word, synagogue, is nor something that applies to a congregation stuck on the OT, no, it is simply an assembly.
We should always put ourselves in the time of Jesus Yeshua teaching on the earth to understand what is being conveyed.

Once more I pass along something very important about Israel,. The Israel of today is not the Israel with the New Jerusalem, the Israel of God. It is the staging gourd for the coming into being of the words of Relation, that is, the destination of Sateen to rule from, though ever so briefly.

Do not be fooled by that wicked place on our global maps today.
I agree and meant to hit that icon but accidentally hit the Reply icon.
(Where is the smiley face for "oops!"?
 
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The ultimate meaning of each of th titles mentioned are, From across the river, which as many say today when one passes away, he or she has crossed over Jordan.
Israelite would be one who rules with God. Finally a Jew is anyone who truly praises God.
On that last note, we have bright light shed upon the warning in Revelations, "Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are really a synagogue of Satan."
The meaning of the word, synagogue, is nor something that applies to a congregation stuck on the OT, no, it is simply an assembly.
We should always put ourselves in the time of Jesus Yeshua teaching on the earth to understand what is being conveyed.

Once more I pass along something very important about Israel,. The Israel of today is not the Israel with the New Jerusalem, the Israel of God. It is the staging gourd for the coming into being of the words of Relation, that is, the destination of Sateen to rule from, though ever so briefly.

Do not be fooled by that wicked place on our global maps today.
Ask Dad, Father, PaPa to become wise as serpents and remain harmless as doves. Under Law, Upholding Law as good there is a difference I now see, thank you
 
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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
God did it, I beleive it, it is done, thank you God. I want to rest and still do what you want me to do, God, thank you. To, see it is not me doing the work, rather it is you through me in your Holy Spirit of truth, thank you. John 4:23-24
 

Magenta

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Our citizenship belongs in Heaven.

Philippians 3:20-21

Philippians 3 verses 20-21 ~ Our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.
:)
 

MrE

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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
Except that was Paul writing, and he really was Hebrew, Jew, Israelite, etc. Don't miss it.
 
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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
Romans, Chapter 2:

28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.


Scriptures teach that we are Heirs to the Promise by Adoption.... and the true Church is the Church Jesus established.
 

Gideon300

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The ultimate meaning of each of th titles mentioned are, From across the river, which as many say today when one passes away, he or she has crossed over Jordan.
Israelite would be one who rules with God. Finally a Jew is anyone who truly praises God.
On that last note, we have bright light shed upon the warning in Revelations, "Beware of those who call themselves Jews but are really a synagogue of Satan."
The meaning of the word, synagogue, is nor something that applies to a congregation stuck on the OT, no, it is simply an assembly.
We should always put ourselves in the time of Jesus Yeshua teaching on the earth to understand what is being conveyed.

Once more I pass along something very important about Israel,. The Israel of today is not the Israel with the New Jerusalem, the Israel of God. It is the staging gourd for the coming into being of the words of Relation, that is, the destination of Sateen to rule from, though ever so briefly.

Do not be fooled by that wicked place on our global maps today.
Israel was established by a series of miracles. It survived become independent by a series of miracles. It has endured wars in 1956, 1967, 1973 from attacks from neighbouring nations - all Muslim. You might recall that Ishmael and his descendants would be a thorn in Israel's side. Israel left Gaza and permitted Gazans to choose their own rulers. They chose Hamas. Hamas has attacked Israel four times since being elected by Gaza. Hamas made sure that they would stay in power by killing anyone who opposes them.

Up until the 7th October attack, Israel gave 17,000 Gazans permission to work in Israel. Those workers spied on Israel in order to provide information for the Hamas attacks.

Israel only survives by the grace of God. There are 22 Muslim nations around Israel, population 150 million plus. Israel has a population of 9 million. Israel has defeated Egypt (over 100 million), Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia (OK, half hearted effort from the Saudis) and Jordan. Israel's population includes 2 million Arabs, mostly Muslim, some Christian. They have equal rights as Israeli citizens.

Jews have been driven from almost every middle eastern Muslim nation. Israel has not driven out its Arab population. For that matter, how many Christians are there in Yemen, Saudi Arabia or Kuwait? Do you not know that Egypt was once majority Christian? Do you not know that Christians in Egypt are second class citizens, with fewer rights than Muslims? If you want to know about apartheid, look to Egypt, not Israel

You tell me what the truly wicked nations are. The UN has a separate refugee program for Arabs (so-called Palestinians) who fled during the 1948 war of independence. Every other refugee comes under a single separate program.

Why the hate, hostility, lies and deception that is directed against Israel? It is because they hate God. Read Psalm 2 for a heads up.

There is no such thing as Palestine, there never was and there never will be. Palestine was a name given by the Romans as an insult to Israel after Rome destroyed Jerusalem and most of Israel. Most Jews left Israel, as did most Christians. No other ethnic group has stayed separate after 2,000 years living in other nations. The return of Jews to Israel in 1948 is as foretold by God's word.

God still blesses those who bless Israel. America is the stand out nation, the most powerful on earth. As Antisemitism rises, America is in decline. Britain welcomed Jews from Europe for a time. During that time, tiny Britain became the world's super power. Britain (no longer "Great") turned against Jews in the early 20th century (1905 saw the "Aliens Act). It is no coincidence that Britain has lost empire since then. Two world wars bankrupted the country. Britain turned away immigrants from the British-controlled region known as Palestine. They were escaping from Nazi Germany. Many of those migrants were killed by the Nazis. Their blood is on the hands of those who chose to support Arabs at the expense of Jews.

Jews did not "colonise" what is now Israel. The land was purchased, often at inflated prices, by Arabs, some of whom were Christians.

I am sickened by the ignorant Antisemitism by the world and by some Christians who swallow the world's lies. No, not every Jew is saved. However, there is a revival going on Israel now.

God has not finished with Israel. I suggest you mockers and sceptics check out some history. You might learn something.
 
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Philippians 3 verses 20-21 ~ Our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, Who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.
:)
Phil 1:6 yes, yes, yes, we, at least me, have been being peeled like an onion and seeing the center of an onion has a sweet smelling savor. Over the years I have seen things leave, and things come back as well, depending on whether or not pride entered in me again from over thinking, I got it, a me in the way trying to do, what only God can and did do, by Son as an example to see my 100% need forever in trust. Now trusting God only as got it for me, you and all others that believe God too, thank you. I won't back down, Put me up against the gates of hell and I won't back down or fight in flesh and blood, thanking Father and Son in all things. Who has got us each in belief to his love thanks to Son's done work first, Wow! thank you Magenta
 
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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
Yes, made One with Father and Son certainly truth in Thanksgiving and praise forever, never deserving this gift, yet given it wow! Thank you Father, Daddy, PaPa
 
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2Co 11:22 Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are we not said to cross Jordan into the Promised land in His time? Are they Israelites? so am I. are we not to, dare I say, rule with God? Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I. Finally, are we not children of Abraham according to Jesus Yeshua?

We too are all the above, having been grafted into the true vine.
What an amazing gift, that no-one can really fathom unless born again too, by Father in risen Son too, thank you
 

Blade

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Yes show me a branch that was no originally of the vine. I am the vine you are the branches.

So today.. anyone that does not know Yeshua/Jesus Christ as lord will not get in. So I pray for all.. for we all need Jesus.