Are the pagan deities 'real'?

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2 Corinthians 6:14-18

14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?

16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
Perhaps in your zeal to condemn and show animus for unbelievers you forgot what we're told of them by Paul in yet another church epistle to those in Corinth.
The Epistle of 2nd Corinthians chapter 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The Epistle of 1st Corinthians 5:12What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church ? Are you not to judge those inside?



Also, I would suggest you research the context of that full chapter of chapter 6 in the Book of 2nd Corinthians as it is that of Paul's church epistles to the churches in Corinth. And perhaps choose to learn about the culture of Corinth as well.

Church Epistles are those letters Paul wrote guiding the churches he founded and oversaw.
That is not God's edict. That is Paul's management.

Before judging those whom Jesus died for, all people in the world, you might consider that those who identify as Christian argue against Jesus teachings as to how to follow his commands.
15. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments." The Book of John chapter 14

As the Saint Apostle Paul said, we are to judge those in the church. Why occupy our time with those outside? The Great Commission was exampled by Christ and His Apostles and His guidance to them. If they encountered a village or people not open to receive the Gospel, they were told to kick the dust from their feet and move on.
Jesus didn't say to call those people a name, or feel hatred for them. And why would he? Jesus was God on Earth and all that is created, including unbelievers, are of and from God.
 
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Perhaps in your zeal to condemn and show animus for unbelievers you forgot what we're told of them by Paul in yet another church epistle to those in Corinth.
The Epistle of 2nd Corinthians chapter 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

The Epistle of 1st Corinthians 5:12What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church ? Are you not to judge those inside?



Also, I would suggest you research the context of that full chapter of chapter 6 in the Book of 2nd Corinthians as it is that of Paul's church epistles to the churches in Corinth. And perhaps choose to learn about the culture of Corinth as well.

Church Epistles are those letters Paul wrote guiding the churches he founded and oversaw.
That is not God's edict. That is Paul's management.

Before judging those whom Jesus died for, all people in the world, you might consider that those who identify as Christian argue against Jesus teachings as to how to follow his commands.
15. “If you love me, you will keep my commandments." The Book of John chapter 14

As the Saint Apostle Paul said, we are to judge those in the church. Why occupy our time with those outside? The Great Commission was exampled by Christ and His Apostles and His guidance to them. If they encountered a village or people not open to receive the Gospel, they were told to kick the dust from their feet and move on.
Jesus didn't say to call those people a name, or feel hatred for them. And why would he? Jesus was God on Earth and all that is created, including unbelievers, are of and from God.
John 3:18-19

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.


Deuteronomy 7:2-10

2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:

3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the Lord be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.

5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.

6 For thou art an holy people unto the Lord thy God: the Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

7 The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:

8 But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the Lord brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.

9 Know therefore that the Lord thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;

10 And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
 
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You referred to how humans were deified. How about Jesus
The men that have deified themselves, or been deified by others, were all but mere men, formed of the union of man and woman.

The Lord Jesus is the Eternal Word of God by which the Father formed all of the creation. By his Spirit, the Lord God bound his Word into flesh in the womb of the virgin. Taking the form of a man, the Word of God was crucified and resurrected so that man might know the truth about the True God. This is Jesus.
 
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The men that have deified themselves, or been deified by others, were all but mere men, formed of the union of man and woman.

The Lord Jesus is the Eternal Word of God by which the Father formed all of the creation. By his Spirit, the Lord God bound his Word into flesh in the womb of the virgin. Taking the form of a man, the Word of God was crucified and resurrected so that man might know the truth about the True God. This is Jesus.
Anyone could say that about anyone else
 

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Anyone could say that about anyone else
While that is true, no-one could say it about anyone else and have the abundance of evidence to back it up.
 

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Yes anyone can say that...but the TRUTH, regardless of what men say or believe, will remain the TRUTH...
 
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Anyone could say that about anyone else


But why would Ancient Greek writers, Pagans themselves, write this concerning Jesus? That is the beauty about true historians. Whether they follow, they believe, they are a part of.......they still write about "Current Events."

So remove from what the Bible claims because it is very BIASED towards God.
And ask yourself, but why would true Pagans make the same claim about Jesus?
 
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Buffy, are you celebrating Beltane/May Day today, by an chance?
 
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James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!
Acts 16-18
Now it happened, as we went to prayer, that a certain slave girl possessed with a spirit of divination met us, who brought her masters much profit by fortune-telling. This girl followed Paul and us, and cried out, saying, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” And this she did for many days.
But Paul, greatly annoyed, turned and said to the spirit, “I command you in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her.” And he came out that very hour.
 
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Mark 1:23
Now there was a man in their synagogue with an unclean spirit. And he cried out, saying, “Let us alone! What have we to do with You, Jesus of Nazareth? Did You come to destroy us? I know who You are—the Holy One of God!”
But Jesus rebuked him, saying, “Be quiet, and come out of him!”

And out it came!! Even unclean spirits know who HE Is.
Anyone can say they ‘believe’
 
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First of all, I bet you have no idea what the Bible even is.

It's a Lineage record.
Much like you, your parents, their parents, their parents, until the first member of your specific family.

But for the Bible, it not only lists the generations of people (specifically the Hebrew people), but it also includes some special members of this unique family. It includes their struggles, it includes periods where they were slaves, it includes tragedies that took place on this Earth we live in and how they survived it (8 people). But the unique part of this family was their GOD. And they go into great detail about WHO their God was, and how He helped them, and how He dealt with the generations throughout history.

These were actual and literal people who lived, died, and were inspired to write some details of their life that dealt with their GOD teaching them lessons, bringing them through perilous times, and their GOD's promise to them.

But these people had a tendency to forget their GOD until they were in trouble. They would sometimes worship these pagan gods and would mix with the other peoples of the Earth and choose their ways rather than keep the ones they were given by birthright. Eventually, this led to their GOD saying to them, since you do these things purposefully I (their GOD) will make a way so ALL people on Earth can believe in Me (their GOD). And this is where we come into the picture.

So this is just not a Book about Who God is, but a Book about a people who had something very special and unique. And they gave it away. But it is indeed about GOD, my GOD! And each day I live, I face some of the very same problems these Ancient People did. And I can read their story and apply it to my own life. Just like I can now see how MY GOD is doing for me, as He once did for them.
 
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Ask Dagon if he is real.

Oh, I forgot. He can't speak. Couldn't even before he lost his head over the ark.

Ask Baal. No, he can't seem to speak, either, judging by what he had to say to Elijah. Nothing.

Find one who speaks and ask him.
 
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I wonder if Buffy is a practicing Pagan. If so, she has been given the fuel she needs to keep with her own views and faith. Just about everyone of us has ripped on her in our own special way. None of us have really shown who Yeshua truthfully is. Her soul will ultimately be charged to each one of us!
 

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Theyre demons, spirits... they want sacrifice for manipulation power and things of that nature. Not something to mingle with
 

Demi777

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Ask Dagon if he is real.

Oh, I forgot. He can't speak. Couldn't even before he lost his head over the ark.

Ask Baal. No, he can't seem to speak, either, judging by what he had to say to Elijah. Nothing.

Find one who speaks and ask him.
They speak...to tell someone to speak to them...asking them to dibble into occult things is not a very christisn thing to do. I doubt Jesus would say that to someone