Are musicians lazy?

[mar09]

No, this thread is not meant to be a battle ground or where we'll argue abt their lifestyles.. but I'd like to understand the mind of artists incl. musicians, who may have a very different pacing w/ others.

I'm a music enthusiast, and take time learning some instruments, but don't call myself a musician. I know there's always housework.. but when there's a piece I have to learn or master, it does require time.. and afterwards hands are tired, etc.

Any thoughts? Even tips or suggestions for those who give significant amt of time in learning their craft and practices.. Thank you=))

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I began playing drums 38 years ago and I've never heard anyone associate musicians with laziness. As for myself, I'm always working . . . always busy.

 

[EternalFire]

I can certainly relate to having a very limited amount of free time to practice. Some sort of practice plan may be helpful. This can at least assist you in developing a mission to accomplish, so you don’t spend any of your practice time debating the means you are using to obtain the outcomes you desire.

Here’s a link to a practice planner that was developed for the piano. All the best on your musical journey as you play music to glorify God, our Father, and His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.

https://www.pianote.com/shop/practice-planner

 

[Kireina]

I am not a musician but I am lazy lol just kidding


I don't think musicians are lazy...they use their voice,mind, hands and feet to make a living. And I read somewhere that for some musicians to write a piece of music sometimes took them months...they spend long hours working just for a piece.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I am not a musician but I am lazy lol just kidding


I don't think musicians are lazy...they use their voice, mind, hands, and feet to make a living. And I read somewhere that for some musicians to write a piece of music sometimes took them months...they spend long hours working just for a piece.

You're so understanding. lol

 

[Subhumanoidal]

No, this thread is not meant to be a battle ground or where we'll argue abt their lifestyles.. but I'd like to understand the mind of artists incl. musicians, who may have a very different pacing w/ others.

I'm a music enthusiast, and take time learning some instruments, but don't call myself a musician. I know there's always housework.. but when there's a piece I have to learn or master, it does require time.. and afterwards hands are tired, etc.

Any thoughts? Even tips or suggestions for those who give significant amt of time in learning their craft and practices.. Thank you=))

Musicians tend to be more emotion oriented. True of creative people in general, male or female. They tend to pour themselves into what they create. This can be draining, and thus takes time.
Also many seem to be perfectionists, at least about their creations, again taking longer than usual to do things.
Many try to be independent in their work, allowing them to create their own schedules, rather than being in a business where they're required to pump out work on a time frame.

It's also common for many to have mental issues. And through these issues stems their creativity. But also leaves them dry and unable to produce at the time.
I'd say these creators are much different than the ones that learn how to play other people's work and not do much cresting themselves.
We see this most clearly classical music. Classical musicians basically spend more time playing others work, rather than creating their own. And the overall vibe of these musicians is often happier. Compare this to the image of a classical composer who is often seen as troubled, moody, demanding and short tempered. Yet when things go right, their whole demeanor changes. Lead by their emotions.

 

[DeanM]

I began playing drums 38 years ago and I've never heard anyone associate musicians with laziness. As for myself, I'm always working . . . always busy.

I dont think drums would be a lazy persons choice of instrument. Looks like work to me.

 

[Gideon300]

No, this thread is not meant to be a battle ground or where we'll argue abt their lifestyles.. but I'd like to understand the mind of artists incl. musicians, who may have a very different pacing w/ others.

I'm a music enthusiast, and take time learning some instruments, but don't call myself a musician. I know there's always housework.. but when there's a piece I have to learn or master, it does require time.. and afterwards hands are tired, etc.

Any thoughts? Even tips or suggestions for those who give significant amt of time in learning their craft and practices.. Thank you=))

No. It seems to me that the elite have a combination of talent and total obsession. I had a friend who took his guitar to the toilet so he could play it there. He worked full time and his constant complaint was that he could not practice enough. I play, but for about 20 minutes a day. If I miss a day, it does not bother me. He's brilliant. I'm a hack.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I don't think drums would be a lazy person's choice of instrument. Looks like work to me.

Well, I think the point to the thread is that musicians are lazy in life, not with their instruments.

 

[Mission21]

I do not agree... 'musicians are lazy.'
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It seems that more important issue is...quality of musical piece/song.
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I talked with a musician.. some time ago.
- He has been involved in Christian music..from 1970's.
Pioneering days of 'Contemporary Christian Music'..
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We talked about..enduring/classic praise songs.
He said that 'technology' changed..the quality.
- "It takes less time & effort...to create a song/musical piece."
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One fellow (young musician) said on his post..some time ago.
- " I like 'old praise songs'...they have more quality, anointing, etc.."

Blessings,

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

It's a total commitment to maintain a good level of proficiency.
Playing is not at all like riding a bicycle. If you don't do it regularly, you get rusty.

It can be very difficult to maintain your skill level when you do another full time job.
Even living arrangements can make it difficult because people who don't play don't understand.
When you don't have your own space it's almost impossible to practise enough. Unless you are living with other musicians.

 

[mar09]

I appreciate all the posts.. realize how the days have quickly passed, and apologize i could not return to this sooner.

Not living in large place, or having a separate music or practice room, i really have to schedule practice w/ my family at home. Used to be able to practice at church where there were barely people on weekdays, but i'm away and unable to do that where i presently am. Thankfully, my daughter tolerates.. i mean she can study in a large room, sometimes w/ earphones.. but i dont want to disturb my spouse who would have online meetings these days.

When i have to master a pc and taking longer to do that, i get uncomfortable thinking hubby (and others i know too) thinking i spend too long on something not very 'productive,' esp as it takes weeks (and has no real monetary equivalent=). I know it is an offering to the Lord we make as excellent as we can, and can bless others.. but theres the feeling that i have a 3- or 4-minute product thats there-- then its gone!

 

[mar09]

I can certainly relate to having a very limited amount of free time to practice. Some sort of practice plan may be helpful. This can at least assist you in developing a mission to accomplish, so you don’t spend any of your practice time debating the means you are using to obtain the outcomes you desire.

Here’s a link to a practice planner that was developed for the piano. All the best on your musical journey as you play music to glorify God, our Father, and His Son, our Lord Jesus Christ.

https://www.pianote.com/shop/practice-planner

Thank you.. i will look into it!

 

[mar09]

Musicians tend to be more emotion oriented. True of creative people in general, male or female. They tend to pour themselves into what they create. This can be draining, and thus takes time.
Also many seem to be perfectionists, at least about their creations, again taking longer than usual to do things.
Many try to be independent in their work, allowing them to create their own schedules, rather than being in a business where they're required to pump out work on a time frame.

It's also common for many to have mental issues. And through these issues stems their creativity. But also leaves them dry and unable to produce at the time.
I'd say these creators are much different than the ones that learn how to play other people's work and not do much cresting themselves.
We see this most clearly classical music. Classical musicians basically spend more time playing others work, rather than creating their own. And the overall vibe of these musicians is often happier. Compare this to the image of a classical composer who is often seen as troubled, moody, demanding and short tempered. Yet when things go right, their whole demeanor changes. Lead by their emotions.

I can see what you mean... being kind of perfectionists. So i wonder, as during this pandemic, when some in our worship team cannot have enough practice time, they just seem to decide not to practice together if we cannot have 'good output.' Like having all or nothing, because we cannot work long enough on something together.

Classical musicians may be more gifted Or have a more difficult 'assignment,' but i cant really speak for them for i listen to and appreciate their work; am an amateur tho.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

Most so called musicians are brutally lazy.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

King David was a musician, poet, shepherd, & warrior-king. He seems to have had plenty of time for marriage & sex as well.
He was a flawed individual but the biblical account doesn't give the impression he was lazy.

 

[Subhumanoidal]

I can see what you mean... being kind of perfectionists. So i wonder, as during this pandemic, when some in our worship team cannot have enough practice time, they just seem to decide not to practice together if we cannot have 'good output.' Like having all or nothing, because we cannot work long enough on something together.

Classical musicians may be more gifted Or have a more difficult 'assignment,' but i cant really speak for them for i listen to and appreciate their work; am an amateur tho.

Actually it's less that they are more talented, and more that they are trained to view and hear and approach music more differently than any other genre.
Most musicians learn to approach music by feeling it. It's not just notes, but it's the total song and the effect it has on you. Whereas classical musicians focus on the notes and being able to play what's in front of them, regardless of feeling.
This may give the illusion they are more talented, but it's really just a matter of learning how to approach music.

 

[mar09]

It's a total commitment to maintain a good level of proficiency.
Playing is not at all like riding a bicycle. If you don't do it regularly, you get rusty.

It can be very difficult to maintain your skill level when you do another full time job.
Even living arrangements can make it difficult because people who don't play don't understand.
When you don't have your own space it's almost impossible to practise enough. Unless you are living with other musicians.

Thats it.. just a day or 2 break and you need to take time again. An hour or 2 into it, and youre just warming up. David sure had plenty of time as a young man practicing while with the sheep.