Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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The language is pretty clear. Jesus said resurrected saints will be as the angels in heaven; ie, they do not marry. If you think this is incorrect, please explain
The same day came to him the Sadducees, which say that there is no resurrection, and asked him, Saying, Master, Moses said, If a man die, having no children, his brother shall marry his wife, and raise up seed unto his brother. Now there were with us seven brethren: and the first, when he had married a wife, deceased, and, having no issue, left his wife unto his brother: Likewise the second also, and the third, unto the seventh. And last of all the woman died also. Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her. Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. Matthew 22:23-30
I have directly addressed it. Your foundational "quote" has to do with angels in heaven, and that has been pointed out to you repeatedly. Anyhow, as we both know, and as I trust others who are following this thread likewise know, you are the one who refuses to address my Bible-based questions, and, again, we both/all know why that is.
Anyhow, I am a very busy man, and I only have limited time to post here. In fact, I spent most of my day yesterday pondering if I should continue posting on this forum at all because I do have so many other things to attend to. Should I continue to post here, then I can only interact with people who are truly interested in dialogue. So far, all that I have gotten from you is the same old tired monologue. If you are not going to answer my questions, then I will just put you on ignore while addressing others. The choice is yours.
Btw. if those verses have nothing to do with Genesis 6, then what do they have to do with? In other words, when did a certain subset of angels leave heaven in order to fornicate or in order to go after strange flesh like the men of Sodom did? Just another legitimate, Bible-based question that you will more than likely avoid. Whatever.
Anyhow, I am a very busy man, and I only have limited time to post here. In fact, I spent most of my day yesterday pondering if I should continue posting on this forum at all because I do have so many other things to attend to. Should I continue to post here, then I can only interact with people who are truly interested in dialogue. So far, all that I have gotten from you is the same old tired monologue. If you are not going to answer my questions, then I will just put you on ignore while addressing others. The choice is yours.
Btw. if those verses have nothing to do with Genesis 6, then what do they have to do with? In other words, when did a certain subset of angels leave heaven in order to fornicate or in order to go after strange flesh like the men of Sodom did? Just another legitimate, Bible-based question that you will more than likely avoid. Whatever.
All of that time you spent typing these words could have been spent addressing post 302.
I don't spend my time wondering about the verses you posted and frankly am not interested in discussing them unless they can be realistically shown to be connected to Genesis 6. So far that hasn't happened. What will settle this issue is determining if angels even have sex organs. So far the evidence says no. Please address the evidence for this matter.
I don't spend my time wondering about the verses you posted and frankly am not interested in discussing them unless they can be realistically shown to be connected to Genesis 6. So far that hasn't happened. What will settle this issue is determining if angels even have sex organs. So far the evidence says no. Please address the evidence for this matter.
I think it best in these subjects to establish the facts rather than speculate.
Gen 6 did happen just as the bible said.
Fallen angels had taken daughters of men to procreate.
How the fallen angels left their first estate is a mystery. Unknown.
Weather the procreation was by intercourse or some other means is Unknown.....assumption.
Please add to this list to cover your findings.
Gen 6 did happen just as the bible said.
Fallen angels had taken daughters of men to procreate.
How the fallen angels left their first estate is a mystery. Unknown.
Weather the procreation was by intercourse or some other means is Unknown.....assumption.
Please add to this list to cover your findings.
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From God's own words it's pretty explicit that angels do not engage in marital relationships. If marriage doesn't exist in heaven, then neither does sexual union because marriage is sexual union. And it can be reasonably inferred from this that angels don't have a sexual nature because God would not create beings with sexual equipment and desire and then not allow them to engage in sexual activity; that runs so contrary to his revealed nature. Creating sexual beings and forbidding them to engage in sexual activity would be cruelty.
So it can be reasonably ascertained that angels do not have a sexual nature, and since they don't have one it's irrational and nonsensical to claim that they would have sexual relations with women.
So it can be reasonably ascertained that angels do not have a sexual nature, and since they don't have one it's irrational and nonsensical to claim that they would have sexual relations with women.
For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven. Mark 12:25
It happens quite often, as I mentioned to you about ten days ago now... @ChristRoseFromTheDead
The text can also say that the giants already exist before the " sons of God" take human woman. Genesis 6,4.
But they all died during the flood.
We read later when the Israelites enter the promised land that the Anakiter/Enakiter were giants.
This means in my understanding that there was genetic pool in Adam and Eva and also in Noah and his family, which allowed the possibility of giants, and also for pygmaens.
But they all died during the flood.
We read later when the Israelites enter the promised land that the Anakiter/Enakiter were giants.
This means in my understanding that there was genetic pool in Adam and Eva and also in Noah and his family, which allowed the possibility of giants, and also for pygmaens.
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I agree that passage is about who Christ is. It could even be said of man and still not lose its meaning or intended purpose. But to which of mankind has he said at any time thou art my son today I have begotten you.
Angels as well as humans are the sons of God. When John is talking to the angel in heaven he twice claims brotherhood with him which if we be brothers then we share the same father.
Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
John falls down twice to worship this angel and this is his reply.
Revelation 19:9-10
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Revelation 22:8-9
And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
The word "of thy brethren" Is sou and adelphos in the Greek
Sou means: your, of you.
Cultural and Historical Background: In the Greco-Roman world, personal pronouns like "σοῦ" were essential for indicating possession and personal relationships. The use of "σοῦ" in the New Testament reflects the personal and relational nature of the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. It underscores the individual responsibility and personal connection each believer has with God and others.
https://biblehub.com/greek/4675.htm
Adelphos means: a brother, member of the same religious community, especially a fellow-Christian.
Word Origin: From the Greek prefix "ἀ-" (a, denoting unity) and "δελφύς" (delphys, meaning womb), literally meaning "from the same womb."
https://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
Angels as well as humans are the sons of God. When John is talking to the angel in heaven he twice claims brotherhood with him which if we be brothers then we share the same father.
Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
John falls down twice to worship this angel and this is his reply.
Revelation 19:9-10
And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.
10And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
Revelation 22:8-9
And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
The word "of thy brethren" Is sou and adelphos in the Greek
Sou means: your, of you.
Cultural and Historical Background: In the Greco-Roman world, personal pronouns like "σοῦ" were essential for indicating possession and personal relationships. The use of "σοῦ" in the New Testament reflects the personal and relational nature of the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. It underscores the individual responsibility and personal connection each believer has with God and others.
https://biblehub.com/greek/4675.htm
Adelphos means: a brother, member of the same religious community, especially a fellow-Christian.
Word Origin: From the Greek prefix "ἀ-" (a, denoting unity) and "δελφύς" (delphys, meaning womb), literally meaning "from the same womb."
https://biblehub.com/greek/80.htm
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It's obviously not an angel in the sense of a spirit being because he claims to be of John's brethren the prophets. No angel is ever called a prophet. In fact it might be Jesus himself because he says in a previous verse that he is coming quickly. And he pointed John to worship God the father instead of him. Or it could be another human because humans do exist in heaven, eg, Moses, Elijah, the 24 elders.
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