Are giants the offspring of angels and humans?
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Biblically people were considered married before any physical relations occurred.
Just think Mary and Joseph. He was going to divorce her when he found out she was pregnant.
The reason being that he knew he had not had relations with her that could
have resulted in such an outcome, and yet they were considered married.
Just think Mary and Joseph. He was going to divorce her when he found out she was pregnant.
The reason being that he knew he had not had relations with her that could
have resulted in such an outcome, and yet they were considered married.
It's not really hard to understand if you look at the text. Adam is the first born made by God. Jesus the second Adam made flesh by the Holy Spirit. Jesus is also referred to as the son of david. The king after Gods own heart.
If you believe in the Seth and Cain theory for Gen 6 and the verse read as men then began calling then why was Noah and his family the only ones saved? Won't there be others? For doesn't the new testament say if you call on the name of the Lord you will be saved?
I have no problem with the 2 views I just wanted to show the other side of the Seth and Cain theory. In which I've chosen men began to profane. This seems to fit with the narrative to only 8 were spared.
I enjoy your posts a great deal and mean no offense or correction. I knew in this topic the above mentioned would be involved so I just wanted to express the others ideas. Both are prone to conjecture.
If you believe in the Seth and Cain theory for Gen 6 and the verse read as men then began calling then why was Noah and his family the only ones saved? Won't there be others? For doesn't the new testament say if you call on the name of the Lord you will be saved?
I have no problem with the 2 views I just wanted to show the other side of the Seth and Cain theory. In which I've chosen men began to profane. This seems to fit with the narrative to only 8 were spared.
I enjoy your posts a great deal and mean no offense or correction. I knew in this topic the above mentioned would be involved so I just wanted to express the others ideas. Both are prone to conjecture.
Genesis 4:26 Began vs. Profane
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I have a question regarding Genesis 4:26. This verse reads " then began men to call the name of the LORD." implying that men had fallen from God and now had once again started to return to him. But i have heard a commentator say that the word " began" should be properly translated as " profane," making the verse read " then began men to profane the name of the LORD." To me this makes more sense because as time progresses, men fall deeper into sin and away from God. I looked around in various Greek and Hebrew translators but cant find anything to support this claim. If you could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.
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Genesis 4:26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time men began to call on the name of the LORD.
First, I believe the more correct interpretation of Genesis 4:26 would be to use the term 'begin' as opposed to 'profane.' Note that the BDB translates the word 'begin' as: H2490 chlal - 1) to profane, defile, pollute, desecrate, begin.
So, as one can see both definitions 'profane' or 'begin' are possible and context would advise of which to use.
If one looks at some of the ancient Jewish writings (the Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan) they translate the term as 'profane.' I believe Adam Clarke also has a side note on this issue in his commentary. However, the LXX uses epikaleisthai from, kalew which means 'call.' Certain families did 'call' upon the Lord; a progression of 'calling' happened. However, the flood came because many 'profaned' the Lord. So, either definition could work.
However, though both could work, and neither damages the overall meaning of Scripture, I lean toward 'begin' as opposed to 'profane;' as Seth's line (in the context of the verse) is seen as the seed of the woman as opposed to the seed of the serpent - Genesis 3:15. Seth's line would be more prone to begin 'calling' as opposed to 'profaning.'
The meaning:
The covenant family by making its petition and voicing its praise in the name of the Lord, glorified God, not man (Gen. 4:26). This practice later distinguished Israel from all other nations (Gen. 12:8; 13:4, etc.). Thus, Moses' original audience would rightly have identified themselves with Seth and his descendents. In addition, I see a correlation between this and The Law (Sinai Decalogue was attested to before Moses, etc.): 'You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain' (Exod. 20:7) and 'calling' on the 'name of the Lord" (Gen. 4:26).
Answer by Dr. Joseph R. Nally, Jr.
Dr. Joseph R. Nally, Jr., D.D., M.Div. is the Theological Editor at Third Millennium Ministries (Thirdmill).
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I have a question regarding Genesis 4:26. This verse reads " then began men to call the name of the LORD." implying that men had fallen from God and now had once again started to return to him. But i have heard a commentator say that the word " began" should be properly translated as " profane," making the verse read " then began men to profane the name of the LORD." To me this makes more sense because as time progresses, men fall deeper into sin and away from God. I looked around in various Greek and Hebrew translators but cant find anything to support this claim. If you could shed some light on this it would be appreciated.
Answer
Genesis 4:26 Seth also had a son, and he named him Enosh. At that time men began to call on the name of the LORD.
First, I believe the more correct interpretation of Genesis 4:26 would be to use the term 'begin' as opposed to 'profane.' Note that the BDB translates the word 'begin' as: H2490 chlal - 1) to profane, defile, pollute, desecrate, begin.
So, as one can see both definitions 'profane' or 'begin' are possible and context would advise of which to use.
If one looks at some of the ancient Jewish writings (the Targums of Onkelos and Jonathan) they translate the term as 'profane.' I believe Adam Clarke also has a side note on this issue in his commentary. However, the LXX uses epikaleisthai from, kalew which means 'call.' Certain families did 'call' upon the Lord; a progression of 'calling' happened. However, the flood came because many 'profaned' the Lord. So, either definition could work.
However, though both could work, and neither damages the overall meaning of Scripture, I lean toward 'begin' as opposed to 'profane;' as Seth's line (in the context of the verse) is seen as the seed of the woman as opposed to the seed of the serpent - Genesis 3:15. Seth's line would be more prone to begin 'calling' as opposed to 'profaning.'
The meaning:
The covenant family by making its petition and voicing its praise in the name of the Lord, glorified God, not man (Gen. 4:26). This practice later distinguished Israel from all other nations (Gen. 12:8; 13:4, etc.). Thus, Moses' original audience would rightly have identified themselves with Seth and his descendents. In addition, I see a correlation between this and The Law (Sinai Decalogue was attested to before Moses, etc.): 'You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain' (Exod. 20:7) and 'calling' on the 'name of the Lord" (Gen. 4:26).
Answer by Dr. Joseph R. Nally, Jr.
Dr. Joseph R. Nally, Jr., D.D., M.Div. is the Theological Editor at Third Millennium Ministries (Thirdmill).
Yes no issues whatsoever with you or your view on the matter we’re discussing . I just feel as if it’s an escape hatch a lot of people use here in discussions to say “ well the original doesn’t say that it says this other thing “ but then not be willing to share the source of how they know this to be true .
My point with that verse was just that it was in line and echoed with all the others explaining who Gods children are and who Gods spiritual or heavenly , ministers are.
theres no offense or anything like that at all brother , I enjoy discussion in a good spirit . Often here people explain what the bi ke really says in its ancient form and manuscript but then I really wonder “ is this stranger on the internet qualified moreso than the biblical translators ? “
and it’s hard to just take what someone says online as more solid and rooted and grounded than the Bible just because they said it . I’m not at all trying to be rude in any way bro just this is why often when someone explains the Bible doesn’t really say this or that I sort of wonder about thier qualifications is all I mean.
“I have no problem with the 2 views I just wanted to show the other side of the Seth and Cain theory. In which I've chosen men began to profane. This seems to fit with the narrative to only 8 were spared.”
because only eight were spared after ten generations beforehand of people who lived nearly thousand year lifespans bro and had many children sons and daughters we never are really told about
God made a covenant in genesis one with mankind then after man sins ….and after cain kills abel and is rejected
“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.”
Genesis 4:25-26 KJV
look at all the others who existed but we don’t really hear of notice how many years it is from Seth to noah and his sons n the generation of the flood.
32 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.5.4-32.KJV
“and the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: and all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. and Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. and Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: and Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: and Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: and Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. …( we read in Hebrews 11 Enoch never died but was translated by faith ) ect ect ….And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”
Genesis 5:4-5, 7-8, 10, 13, 16, 19, 22-24, 32 KJV
several generations had already lived and died on earth and had already been calling on his name in the beginning before this happened when only 8 were spared is my point
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.”
Genesis 6:5-6, 13-14, 17-18, 22 KJV
there were many generations before the generation of Noah when man became wicked notice this happens at the end of every covenant God destroys man and then begins again. Noah’s covenant runs into Israel’s covenant and then at the end of it God sees again that man had become entirely wicked like before the flood
“God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 53:2-3
So again God ends the covenant and makes a new one through Christ and finally we’re told that at the end of this covenant man will again become desperately wicked at heart sort of like genesis six
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Then of course the lord will return with fire and end it again
God has always been there and his name has always been the same but in scripture it’s hidden from us until the gospel .
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
Genesis 1:1 KJV
Now we too can call upon his name like they did in the beginning by the same word
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
….He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
….But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:1-4, 10, 12-13 KJV
I think In early genesis a lot is hidden from us
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.”
Genesis 3:8 KJV
Who was walking in the garden ? And why wouldn’t they know his name and have told thier children who actually also walked with him ? Like Enoch
My point with that verse was just that it was in line and echoed with all the others explaining who Gods children are and who Gods spiritual or heavenly , ministers are.
theres no offense or anything like that at all brother , I enjoy discussion in a good spirit . Often here people explain what the bi ke really says in its ancient form and manuscript but then I really wonder “ is this stranger on the internet qualified moreso than the biblical translators ? “
and it’s hard to just take what someone says online as more solid and rooted and grounded than the Bible just because they said it . I’m not at all trying to be rude in any way bro just this is why often when someone explains the Bible doesn’t really say this or that I sort of wonder about thier qualifications is all I mean.
“I have no problem with the 2 views I just wanted to show the other side of the Seth and Cain theory. In which I've chosen men began to profane. This seems to fit with the narrative to only 8 were spared.”
because only eight were spared after ten generations beforehand of people who lived nearly thousand year lifespans bro and had many children sons and daughters we never are really told about
God made a covenant in genesis one with mankind then after man sins ….and after cain kills abel and is rejected
“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the LORD.”
Genesis 4:25-26 KJV
look at all the others who existed but we don’t really hear of notice how many years it is from Seth to noah and his sons n the generation of the flood.
32 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/gen.5.4-32.KJV
“and the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: and all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. and Seth lived after he begat Enos eight hundred and seven years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Seth were nine hundred and twelve years: and he died. and Enos lived after he begat Cainan eight hundred and fifteen years, and begat sons and daughters: and Cainan lived after he begat Mahalaleel eight hundred and forty years, and begat sons and daughters: and Mahalaleel lived after he begat Jared eight hundred and thirty years, and begat sons and daughters: and Jared lived after he begat Enoch eight hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters: and all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: and Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him. …( we read in Hebrews 11 Enoch never died but was translated by faith ) ect ect ….And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”
Genesis 5:4-5, 7-8, 10, 13, 16, 19, 22-24, 32 KJV
several generations had already lived and died on earth and had already been calling on his name in the beginning before this happened when only 8 were spared is my point
“And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth. Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch. And, behold, I, even I, do bring a flood of waters upon the earth, to destroy all flesh, wherein is the breath of life, from under heaven; and every thing that is in the earth shall die. But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee. Thus did Noah; according to all that God commanded him, so did he.”
Genesis 6:5-6, 13-14, 17-18, 22 KJV
there were many generations before the generation of Noah when man became wicked notice this happens at the end of every covenant God destroys man and then begins again. Noah’s covenant runs into Israel’s covenant and then at the end of it God sees again that man had become entirely wicked like before the flood
“God looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, that did seek God. Every one of them is gone back: they are altogether become filthy; There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 53:2-3
So again God ends the covenant and makes a new one through Christ and finally we’re told that at the end of this covenant man will again become desperately wicked at heart sort of like genesis six
“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
2 Timothy 3:1-5
Then of course the lord will return with fire and end it again
God has always been there and his name has always been the same but in scripture it’s hidden from us until the gospel .
“In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.”
Genesis 1:1 KJV
Now we too can call upon his name like they did in the beginning by the same word
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
….He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
….But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”
John 1:1-4, 10, 12-13 KJV
I think In early genesis a lot is hidden from us
“And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.”
Genesis 3:8 KJV
Who was walking in the garden ? And why wouldn’t they know his name and have told thier children who actually also walked with him ? Like Enoch
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Book of Enoch
9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him
Book of Jude
14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[e] 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
No doubt Jude was quoting the Book of Enoch which makes it authentic and reliable
9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones to execute judgement upon all, And to destroy all the ungodly: And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed, And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him
Book of Jude
14 Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about them: “See, the Lord is coming with thousands upon thousands of his holy ones 15 to judge everyone, and to convict all of them of all the ungodly acts they have committed in their ungodliness, and of all the defiant words ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[e] 16 These people are grumblers and faultfinders; they follow their own evil desires; they boast about themselves and flatter others for their own advantage.
No doubt Jude was quoting the Book of Enoch which makes it authentic and reliable
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More nonsense.
Did/Does Jesus have a sex organ?
Luk 2:21
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
What part of Jesus' body was circumcised? His nose? Did Jesus want to have sex? Was it cruel for God to give him a sex organ while knowing full well that Jesus would never use it to procreate in marriage? Does Jesus still have a sex organ in his glorified body, or was it somehow removed after his resurrection from the dead?
Contrary to your latest ridiculous claim, the only thing that we can deduce here is that you just keep making things up as you go along. The scary thing is that you actually believe what you are posting.
Did/Does Jesus have a sex organ?
Luk 2:21
And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
What part of Jesus' body was circumcised? His nose? Did Jesus want to have sex? Was it cruel for God to give him a sex organ while knowing full well that Jesus would never use it to procreate in marriage? Does Jesus still have a sex organ in his glorified body, or was it somehow removed after his resurrection from the dead?
Contrary to your latest ridiculous claim, the only thing that we can deduce here is that you just keep making things up as you go along. The scary thing is that you actually believe what you are posting.
Is it really nonsense or is that just an expression you use when you disagree with something?
Jesus was born a man; all men have sex organs and therefore have sex urges. Jesus had sex urges and could have had sex if he had wanted to, but he chose not to. What sense would it make for God to create beings with an urge that they could not satisfy. Such would be the mark of a cruel god.
Do you not think beyond the surface? What purpose would sex organs serve in heaven? There is no evidence that spirit beings have sex organs. Zero, nada, zilch. Such is a worldly, carnal thing. It is not something spiritual beings do as evidenced by the fact that Jesus explicitly said sexual union does not exist in heaven. Marriage is a sanctioned sexual union, that is it's purpose.
Jesus was born a man; all men have sex organs and therefore have sex urges. Jesus had sex urges and could have had sex if he had wanted to, but he chose not to. What sense would it make for God to create beings with an urge that they could not satisfy. Such would be the mark of a cruel god.
Do you not think beyond the surface? What purpose would sex organs serve in heaven? There is no evidence that spirit beings have sex organs. Zero, nada, zilch. Such is a worldly, carnal thing. It is not something spiritual beings do as evidenced by the fact that Jesus explicitly said sexual union does not exist in heaven. Marriage is a sanctioned sexual union, that is it's purpose.
We're not talking about "in heaven." Instead, we are talking about this:
Jde 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Do you believe that all angels are currently reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day? If you do, then you are greatly mistaken. If you do not, then who are this subset of angels? What does it mean that they kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation? What was their first estate or their initial own habitation? I believe that it was heaven. What do you believe? When this subset of angels left their first estate or left their initial own habitation, where did they go? Jupiter? Mars? The Macy's Day Parade in NYC? I believe that they came down to this earth? What do you believe?
2Pe 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Why is the sin of these angels likened to the fornication and going after of strange flesh which the men of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of?
Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Let's see what you've got.
Jde 1:6
And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Do you believe that all angels are currently reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day? If you do, then you are greatly mistaken. If you do not, then who are this subset of angels? What does it mean that they kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation? What was their first estate or their initial own habitation? I believe that it was heaven. What do you believe? When this subset of angels left their first estate or left their initial own habitation, where did they go? Jupiter? Mars? The Macy's Day Parade in NYC? I believe that they came down to this earth? What do you believe?
2Pe 2:4
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
Why is the sin of these angels likened to the fornication and going after of strange flesh which the men of Sodom and Gomorrah were guilty of?
Jde 1:7
Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
Let's see what you've got.
You're trying to indirectly prove the existence of something that Jesus directly said does not exist. In other words, Jesus said in so many words that angels do not have sexual organs. If you disagree with this then let's discuss that. I'm not interested in this roundabout way that you are trying to prove angels have sex organs. You're making assumptions about these passages that IMO are not legitimate, and then use that as a basis to justify your interpretation of Genesis 6. That is an illegitimate way to reason
Of the Apocrypha, Josephus says: “We do not possess myriads of inconsistent books, conflicting with
each other. Our books, those which are justly accredited, are but two and twenty [the equivalent of
the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures according to modern division], and contain the record of all time.”
As to the book of Enoch being found with the Dead Sea Scrolls: the Dead Sea Scrolls contain all kinds
of documents, not just Scripture. For instance, calendars, commentaries, songbooks, community
regulations, and/or historical documents unearthed at Qumran should also not be considered
to be part of the Bible. The Qumran library was much more than just Biblical manuscripts
each other. Our books, those which are justly accredited, are but two and twenty [the equivalent of
the 39 books of the Hebrew Scriptures according to modern division], and contain the record of all time.”
As to the book of Enoch being found with the Dead Sea Scrolls: the Dead Sea Scrolls contain all kinds
of documents, not just Scripture. For instance, calendars, commentaries, songbooks, community
regulations, and/or historical documents unearthed at Qumran should also not be considered
to be part of the Bible. The Qumran library was much more than just Biblical manuscripts
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All that we know for SURE is that when the "Sons of God" (Angels?) had sexual intercourse with the "Daughters of men", the resulting offspring were "unique". However further details aren't given. BUT the FLOOD that occurred apprears to have been for the purpose of returning the human population back to an Adamic purity, since "hybrids" wouldn't be covered by the ADAMIC HUMAN sacrifice of Jesus. However, that's all "just theology", so nothing I'd be willing to die for.
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The same old false claim. Jesus spoke of angels in heaven. I am speaking about angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation. We both know why you don't want to address the difference, and why you don't want to address why their sin is likened to the sin of Sodom.
Case closed.
Case closed.