Are Americans that speak against Trump Treasonous?

[Skittle]

As a Christian, and an American who loves his country and our leader, I am a bit torn. I think there should be some kind of punishment for the America haters that conspired to overturn the elections, but I feel Christian compassion too.

They need to renounce Satan - that is, Biden, Harris, AOC, and the rest of the Democratic Party AND those pretending to be republicans that do not support them. Until such, and for the sake of their soul, they need to be locked up for life unless they make a sincere confession before a chaplain and psychologist.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Are Americans that speak against Trump Treasonous?

No, absolutely not. For one, political speech is protected in the US; and two, simply being critical of a politician doesn't constitute a betrayal of your country. I'd argue that those who exercise their right of free speech are more patriotic than those who try to squash it.

 

[SomeDisciple]

This looks more like a super-loaded question than a reference to any actual news. Like there's no baked potato in the world; or any other thing anywhere that is this loaded.

There's a wide range of motivations for why someone would speak out against any president. Trying to steal an election with deliberate lies and disinformation is definitely treacherous; although technically not "treason" with respect to the constitutional crime of treason.

I think if republicans to incorporate a 2020 election fraud narrative in their midterm strategy without concrete proof, it's going to be seen as a distraction tactic, and they will lose.

 

[tablet123]

The truth is that no leader or nation has done it right according to God except Israel when they were in the truth.

All other leaders and nations that claimed the God of Israel had heathen and worldly ways about them.

And Donald Trump is the same way.

Charity is greater than faith.

And faith works by love.

No love then no faith.

Without charity a person is nothing, their faith is dead, and the love of God does not dwell in them.

The love of money is the root of all evil for it neglects the poor and needy, and love is the fulfilling of the law.

Those that love money has erred from the faith.

And a person cannot follow God and money.

Trump is greedy and pursues money.

He violates the 2 main ingredients love and faith to be right with God.

The Bible warns the saints of the new age movement.

And the time will come that people will not want to hear the truth of the Bible but according to their own lusts the new age(1 Timothy 4:1-5; 2 Timothy 4:2-4).

Trump said that God saved him from the assassination attempt to save America and the world.

What an arrogant statement and he is lying.

He does not show Christlike behavior.

He is following the new age christianity.

The new age is the biggest threat to Christianity in the history of the Church.

Even bigger than Islam.

But you hear no warning from Trump about them.

Which he knows because a leader's job is to know the beliefs of the world to deal with them and if they are a threat.

Jared Kushner his son in law who is Jewish has been working with him both terms.

His Judaism blends traditional observance with a modern, public life, incorporating mystical elements like Kabbalah.

The Kabbalah is a mystical, occult interpretation of the Bible like the new age.

While Trump always identified as Christian by upbringing, his "interest" in the religion was generally seen as nominal and culturally rooted rather than a matter of deep personal piety or theological study before he entered the political arena.

I do not believe Trump is sincere about being a Christian other than to put up a front, deceive, and get support.

But I also believe the top leaders of the Democrats are also following the new age christianity.

The Hegel System at play.

I also believe America and Russia also have the Hegel System at play.

 

[Squigglylines]

As a Christian, and an American who loves his country and our leader, I am a bit torn. I think there should be some kind of punishment for the America haters that conspired to overturn the elections, but I feel Christian compassion too.

They need to renounce Satan - that is, Biden, Harris, AOC, and the rest of the Democratic Party AND those pretending to be republicans that do not support them. Until such, and for the sake of their soul, they need to be locked up for life unless they make a sincere confession before a chaplain and psychologist.

Might end up in a big mess on this one if you ask Republican's If they agree or disagree with Trump thinking the Covid vaccine is safe and effective. Or if you ask Christian Republican's if they agree with Trump on 15-16 weeks(almost half way through pregnancy) being a good place to end legal abortion. Or if you ask those Christian Republican's who are concerned about AI being supported by Trump and it possibly being the Mark of the Beast. Or if you ask the younger Republicans if they agree there is no such thing as global warming and so no need to worry about it. You could go on and on with the list of policies and ideas Trump has that not every Republican agrees with but if disagreeing with any of them is treason and you go one by one you wont end up with anyone left but mindless robots(which I disagree with Trump if he thinks we should vote how he says or face his punishment).

 

[Solitude]

 

[Eli1]

Might end up in a big mess on this one if you ask Republican's If they agree or disagree with Trump thinking the Covid vaccine is safe and effective. Or if you ask Christian Republican's if they agree with Trump on 15-16 weeks(almost half way through pregnancy) being a good place to end legal abortion. Or if you ask those Christian Republican's who are concerned about AI being supported by Trump and it possibly being the Mark of the Beast. Or if you ask the younger Republicans if they agree there is no such thing as global warming and so no need to worry about it. You could go on and on with the list of policies and ideas Trump has that not every Republican agrees with but if disagreeing with any of them is treason and you go one by one you wont end up with anyone left but mindless robots(which I disagree with Trump if he thinks we should vote how he says or face his punishment).

While a lot of what you say is true, Trump has been a blessing from God.
Who would have thought that the nightmare antagonist for the left would have been a man with an 80s hairstyle and tanned skin.
It's beautiful, really.
It's poetry.

 

[Solitude]

While a lot of what you say is true, Trump has been a blessing from God.
Who would have thought that the nightmare antagonist for the left would have been a man with an 80s hairstyle and tanned skin.
It's beautiful, really.
It's poetry.

 

[Eli1]

I don't speak sign-language.

 

[Squigglylines]

While a lot of what you say is true, Trump has been a blessing from God.
Who would have thought that the nightmare antagonist for the left would have been a man with an 80s hairstyle and tanned skin.
It's beautiful, really.
It's poetry.

The OP made me remember the BDS,TDS,ODS ect.ect and the reason it never made it into actually becoming a clinical disorder. Why is because every human being on the planet has it to one extent or the other because nobody agrees 100% on every policy any of them had. It's the same with the OP if there's anything, even just one policy they disagree with and they speak aloud about it then it would be treasonous? In the end everyone suffers from derangement syndrome and everyone is treasonous if they disagree with even one of the opinions of the POTUS, which ends freedom of speech and is supportive of communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

 

[Eli1]

The OP made me remember the BDS,TDS,ODS ect.ect and the reason it never made it into actually becoming a clinical disorder. Why is because every human being on the planet has it to one extent or the other because nobody agrees 100% on every policy any of them had. It's the same with the OP if there's anything, even just one policy they disagree with and they speak aloud about it then it would be treasonous? In the end everyone suffers from derangement syndrome and everyone is treasonous if they disagree with even one of the opinions of the POTUS, which ends freedom of speech and is supportive of communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_derangement_syndrome

I’m not sure I understand you fully in this post but I do understand the “tongue in cheek” concept.

In this topic when I saw the word “treason” I knew that we’re talking about hyperbole or not even that, it’s simply incorrect.
No one goes to jail for not liking or disagreeing with the president …. Unless and I mean…. UNLESS you live in North Korea.

With this being said, Trump enjoys a lot of hyperbole which he employed on the triggered who happen to be leftists.

Other than that, I’m not sure what you’re saying.
But I did understand your previous post clearly.

 

[ChrBrotherist]

My hope remains in Christ. Hard to imagine big money cares which mask is supposedly in charge. They get theirs regardless of which social issues are being focused on.



One side pushes lusts, delusion, illusionary "choice".

The other peddles false promises, band-aid solutions and loves "freedom" more than righteousness.

I voted donald due to the other side blatantly claiming good is evil and evil is good.



Still don't trust the guy, never did. I trust Jesus.


Should I be punished as "anti american" because I love my neighbor more than I trust my government?

 

[Squigglylines]

I’m not sure I understand you fully in this post but I do understand the “tongue in cheek” concept.

In this topic when I saw the word “treason” I knew that we’re talking about hyperbole or not even that, it’s simply incorrect.
No one goes to jail for not liking or disagreeing with the president …. Unless and I mean…. UNLESS you live in North Korea.

With this being said, Trump enjoys a lot of hyperbole which he employed on the triggered who happen to be leftists.

Other than that, I’m not sure what you’re saying.
But I did understand your previous post clearly.

Trumps actually easy to understand. When I first joined Christian Chat I said he was even going to deport Muslims , which he is now doing but everyone disagreed when I said it. He was saying it himself in the videos he put on his web page Agenda 47 but most never listened to them I think. It's my Behavioral Science mind kicking in I suppose. I looked at the OP and thought "oh my we're so exited about attacking the foe we will incriminate even our own selves to do it.". lol

 

[Howdy]

I voted for Trump because I believed he was the lesser of the evil choices we had.
I have liked some of the things he has done and disliked an equal number.
It is our constitutional right to criticize any politician we choose and we should.
Those who tell lies will answer to God and that includes Trump who is noted for not always telling the whole truth,
That is what all politicians do, and in my opinion Trump may be the greatest politician in my lifetime, and I have not seen any evidence that he is a Christian. I hope and pray he is saved
He has convinced many he is not a politician and a great Christian. I have not seen anything in his actions or speech that changes my mind.
The greatest danger is in those who believe him without any question and demonize those who do.
Call them a traitor to our country.
Hopefully we have a better choice in 2028 but I doubt it.

 

[Eli1]

Trumps actually easy to understand. When I first joined Christian Chat I said he was even going to deport Muslims , which he is now doing but everyone disagreed when I said it. He was saying it himself in the videos he put on his web page Agenda 47 but most never listened to them I think. It's my Behavioral Science mind kicking in I suppose. I looked at the OP and thought "oh my we're so exited about attacking the foe we will incriminate even our own selves to do it.". lol

Agreed.
I also made some predictions which came true because i learned human behavior through the school of hard knox.

 

[Squigglylines]

Agreed.
I also made some predictions which came true because i learned human behavior through the school of hard knox.

I wasn't actually making a prediction about the Muslims being deported it was part of the deportation plans from Project 2025, Trump parrots them in the videos he made on his page Agenda-47. Things like the term Civilizational erasure/suicide used by Trump originates from Michael Anton,Christopher Landau ect. or the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. Trump tries to separate himself from it while slipping in phrases they use and acting as if he is the origin of the terminology. To the HF though Trump was just how to get their foot in the WH and nothing more.

 

[SonJudgment]

As a Christian, and an American who loves his country and our leader, I am a bit torn. I think there should be some kind of punishment for the America haters that conspired to overturn the elections, but I feel Christian compassion too.

They need to renounce Satan - that is, Biden, Harris, AOC, and the rest of the Democratic Party AND those pretending to be republicans that do not support them. Until such, and for the sake of their soul, they need to be locked up for life unless they make a sincere confession before a chaplain and psychologist.

They'll have their chance to formalize this ritualistically and be sealed with the 2026 midterm elections and then finalized the 2028 election. For the hijacked democrat party then 2027 will additionally be a pivotal year, they did not have even a primary election when they nominated Kamala in 2024 election year, so the pressure is on for them to do that this time, as well as additionally pressure but also positive potential for the liberal/leftwing ideology to hard reform the democrat party as a political system by reforming their primary processes. Ideally and personally I been long writing and aiming it to be less elitist and undemocratic and really a almost comically authoritarian hyperpower structure of corruption ironically via the Superdelegate system which artificially in a sense "puts the thumb on the scale" of democrat party's structure for leadership and also enables its vast web of Dark Money influencers. I would agree Biden was a puppet, used by the Devil, but he is now you know pretty useless, even moreso than he was before and is of no consequences anymore. Kamala is clearly a Jezebel and still somehow hints lately in the news, even fairly recently, hinted she will run in 2028 and ostensibly start off in the pack therefore as the incumbent nominee of the establishment.

AOC though is of interest to me though, i know a lot of the conservatives on the board and offline don't like her and she is flawed yes, but i also have always seen some hidden fire in my girl AOC. I would agree she needs a repentance but not in the way you think liek a dramatic conversion, but more liek a change ofchange of heart that ignites the flame of her talent and potential as frankly a generational living symbol of the modern leftwing, besides the beautiy of poetics this does functionally serve the ideals of restoring democracy as well and the liberal ideologies more positive aspect thwhen it used to be known as the party of change and freedom rather than the party of metoo karens calling everyone nazis. AOC might be not only then the perfect Representative for the Democrat Party as nominee, but if she is able to mature and consolidate power in these next years and phases she also presents imo the overall strongest case to be made to legitimate be elected President out of all the democrat party's factions and notable personalities in the General Election, and also forces the GOP to have a more mindful primary and not just merely anoint JD (though we liek JD a lot too) but derive the best possible candidates for the most American possible election. AOC doesn't have to repent in the way that's political per se but rather more on a way that is to her persona and value as a Representation of the left and their reformation. Ideally AOC could accomplish this not by totally casting away her built up status and lore, but rather refining it, maturing into power to successfully be able to overthrow and replace the moldy and corrupt Old Guard and also forge a new status quo and leading it that could make her a real potential leader both in Authority and Power, authority of the democrat party, and the power to drive real change.

In other words the democrat party is an entity and yes spiritual forces of good and evil are always at play, but the DNC is more akin to a machine, the machine is indeed controlled by Satan this is almost obscenely obvious for the past decades. We have two key inflection points in the high intensity climactic build up of our long-game that will either destroy the democrat party as an entity f it is a demonic metaphysical construct itself, or in a way that will exorcisize "the ghost in the machine" of the DNC if it is more like a neutral metaphysical object (powers and principalities Ephesians 6:12). Praise Jesus.

 

[Eli1]

I wasn't actually making a prediction about the Muslims being deported it was part of the deportation plans from Project 2025, Trump parrots them in the videos he made on his page Agenda-47. Things like the term Civilizational erasure/suicide used by Trump originates from Michael Anton,Christopher Landau ect. or the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025. Trump tries to separate himself from it while slipping in phrases they use and acting as if he is the origin of the terminology. To the HF though Trump was just how to get their foot in the WH and nothing more.

Agreed.
A lot of my predictions and jokes came from Project 25 slogans.

 

[Squigglylines]

Agreed.
A lot of my predictions and jokes came from Project 25 slogans.

And it leaves those who know nothing of Project 2025 trying to understand why Trump is doing the things he has done from last January until now and some disagreeing over what he should be doing instead. I will give the link from P2025 but beginning at about pages 92-180 it explains what they wanted to have "the next conservative administration" doing in those places(ie. Venezuela,Europe/NATO,Ukraine,Russia,Iran,Israel,China ect.) along with Acts/Bills needing to be passed. It's actually eye-opening as to how the events that unfolded from last January when Trump was sworn in until December of 2025 and that those events follow the project step by step. Looking forward from that point would give insight into the next three years and beyond. https://archive.org/stream/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL_djvu.txt

 

[SomeDisciple]

And it leaves those who know nothing of Project 2025 trying to understand why Trump is doing the things he has done from last January until now and some disagreeing over what he should be doing instead.

Yeah; I read some of project 2025, and there's too much garbage in there written by idiots trying to use the coercive power of government to spread the gospel by force. Unnecessary, unbiblical, and a great way to get people to hate the bible. Their entire strategy of using TPUSA in educational institutions to farm republican voters is stupid; because it is going to turn the schools into ideological battlefields instead of sanctuaries for young people to develop knowledge and skills. They're going to get more people killed on top of not accomplishing what needs to be accomplished. Trump's businessman/saleman personae was much better than the government alpha-tard that only knows how to motivate with deception and coercion.