Applying God's Word to Politics
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Gods form of governing is a patriarchy and not a democracy . Infact the Will of the people has been the point of contention since Eden but our government is designed after man’s collective Will so you have all the insanity .
One place to see it stick out is look what democracy does with issues like transgender or homosexuality or abortion or as Christian’s the religious issues like making laws that approve of worshipping other gods . All essential in a democracy of equality but all opposed to Gods Will . These things are all contrary to Gods Will expressed in his word and also why he’s going to utterly devastate this place when he returns
it’s all so far from the Will of God at this point the world even itself is opposed to its creator and the corrupt Will of man drives it … and yet that’s become the law rather than Gods word
One place to see it stick out is look what democracy does with issues like transgender or homosexuality or abortion or as Christian’s the religious issues like making laws that approve of worshipping other gods . All essential in a democracy of equality but all opposed to Gods Will . These things are all contrary to Gods Will expressed in his word and also why he’s going to utterly devastate this place when he returns
it’s all so far from the Will of God at this point the world even itself is opposed to its creator and the corrupt Will of man drives it … and yet that’s become the law rather than Gods word
I thought God was a king ?
“Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.”
Psalm 145:13 KJV
what im saying is Gods form of government is a patriarchy hes a king and we are his people. His kingdom isn’t a democracy he’s the king and rules soveriegnly.
And the king has made his irrevocable decrees
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
That’s his form of government I eas getting at he’s the king and rules a kingdom . If the subjects begin voting and changing his decrees based on groups you have a form of government that’s driven by the Will of these folks
“The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, And seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 14:2-3 KJV
religion works on a consensus like democracy but chrirtianity is about Gods everlasting kingdom and us inheriting our part in it because of Jesus
“Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.”
Psalm 145:13 KJV
what im saying is Gods form of government is a patriarchy hes a king and we are his people. His kingdom isn’t a democracy he’s the king and rules soveriegnly.
And the king has made his irrevocable decrees
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
That’s his form of government I eas getting at he’s the king and rules a kingdom . If the subjects begin voting and changing his decrees based on groups you have a form of government that’s driven by the Will of these folks
“The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, To see if there were any that did understand, And seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Psalm 14:2-3 KJV
religion works on a consensus like democracy but chrirtianity is about Gods everlasting kingdom and us inheriting our part in it because of Jesus
God is sovereign, but He is also love.
The harmonization of these truths per Matt. 20:25-28 makes me think that in heaven
Jesus will allow us to sit on the throne while he washes our feet.
God's commands express His will,
and His will is for everyone to love,
which is why His yoke is light (Matt. 11:29-30).
The harmonization of these truths per Matt. 20:25-28 makes me think that in heaven
Jesus will allow us to sit on the throne while he washes our feet.
God's commands express His will,
and His will is for everyone to love,
which is why His yoke is light (Matt. 11:29-30).
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Yeah bro my only point to begin with was God doesn’t run a democracy its his kingdom. Jesus rules creation which we are part of…..
Again it’s actually like this
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
He the king not an elected president by the people but sent from heaven by God the father. There is no house and senate or co equal branches there’s a ruler and his people. a kingdom
Again it’s actually like this
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
He the king not an elected president by the people but sent from heaven by God the father. There is no house and senate or co equal branches there’s a ruler and his people. a kingdom
I merely point out that the fruit of the Spirit is love, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control,
and there is no rule against such as these, (Gal. 5:22-23) so let us not envision heaven as a situation where
Jesus is enforcing rules but rather where we who are elected are reflecting divine love. Glory!
and there is no rule against such as these, (Gal. 5:22-23) so let us not envision heaven as a situation where
Jesus is enforcing rules but rather where we who are elected are reflecting divine love. Glory!
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Yeah I don’t understand why you’re telling me though . I was discussing the op government and the Bible …..
“Not like Jesus is enforcing rules but rather where we who are elected are reflecting divine love.”
Again nothing eas said about enforcing anything read this scripture lol you might understand what I’m saying
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
that’s my position and what I was talking about God does not rule through democratic rule or hold elections and votes . He is a king and rules his kingdom the people in his kingdom have to submit to Jesus and acknowledge he is the lord serve him willingly not have him “ enforcing “ rules lol he’s a king his word is the subjects law in his kingdom
“All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
mans designs and ideas about God will never be better or more clear than what we find in the gospel of the kingdom of God
“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
James 4:7 KJV
everything is subject to God including all of us
“Not like Jesus is enforcing rules but rather where we who are elected are reflecting divine love.”
Again nothing eas said about enforcing anything read this scripture lol you might understand what I’m saying
“I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.”
Daniel 7:13-14 KJV
“And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
Matthew 28:18-20 KJV
that’s my position and what I was talking about God does not rule through democratic rule or hold elections and votes . He is a king and rules his kingdom the people in his kingdom have to submit to Jesus and acknowledge he is the lord serve him willingly not have him “ enforcing “ rules lol he’s a king his word is the subjects law in his kingdom
“All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.”
mans designs and ideas about God will never be better or more clear than what we find in the gospel of the kingdom of God
“Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
James 4:7 KJV
everything is subject to God including all of us
I agree with essentially everything you say, but I wanted to clarify or clean up items such as "the people in his kingdom have to submit to Jesus and acknowledge he is the lord serve him willingly not have him enforcing rules lol he’s a king his word is the subjects law in his kingdom" by pointing out that "have to" and "willingly" are harmonized by understanding his law to be love/the HS, so His kingdom is different from earthly dictatorships.
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“by pointing out that "have to" and "willingly" are harmonized by understanding his law to be love/the HS, so His kingdom is different from earthly dictatorships.”
his law to be love / Holy Spirit ?
yeah Gods Will has always from the beginning been that we would love each other in deed and truth . It’s a sin to kill . Because that’s not love . It’s a sin to cheat on our spouse because that’s not love it’s a sin to steal from my neighbor because ….that’s not love ect
But can I ask something Do you think the gospel of the kingdom of God the king came to preach and promise to believers has anything to do with the law of his kingdom ?
Even after the end of this world his words remain
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35
his words re literally what promises life together with him forever if we accept them
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
But If we deny his words in the gospel of his kingdom
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
And
“For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.”
Luke 9:26 KJV
My point is that I agree with what you said there but would say Gods love is taught by Jesus Christ in the gospel of his kingdom and he is the lawgiver . N other words We learn to love as Gods children from Gods son and are filled with his spirit as a companion To our own that’s being delivered
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
Romans 8:16 KJV
Love does fulfill and is the purpose of the law but love needs actions and deeds or it’s not love to love Gods way we need to hear the commands of the lord Jesus and follow after them then we will be loving people his way which is the law of God
“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”
1 John 5:2-3 KJV
mans understanding of love is way off we need to learn Gods ways of love
his law to be love / Holy Spirit ?
yeah Gods Will has always from the beginning been that we would love each other in deed and truth . It’s a sin to kill . Because that’s not love . It’s a sin to cheat on our spouse because that’s not love it’s a sin to steal from my neighbor because ….that’s not love ect
But can I ask something Do you think the gospel of the kingdom of God the king came to preach and promise to believers has anything to do with the law of his kingdom ?
Even after the end of this world his words remain
“Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.”
Matthew 24:35
his words re literally what promises life together with him forever if we accept them
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
But If we deny his words in the gospel of his kingdom
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
John 12:48 KJV
And
“For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.”
Luke 9:26 KJV
My point is that I agree with what you said there but would say Gods love is taught by Jesus Christ in the gospel of his kingdom and he is the lawgiver . N other words We learn to love as Gods children from Gods son and are filled with his spirit as a companion To our own that’s being delivered
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
Romans 8:16 KJV
Love does fulfill and is the purpose of the law but love needs actions and deeds or it’s not love to love Gods way we need to hear the commands of the lord Jesus and follow after them then we will be loving people his way which is the law of God
“By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”
1 John 5:2-3 KJV
mans understanding of love is way off we need to learn Gods ways of love
1. "his law to be love / Holy Spirit ?" Yes, per John 13:34, 14:16, Rom. 5:5.
2. "Do you think the gospel of the kingdom of God the king came to preach and promise to believers has anything to do with the law of his kingdom?" Yes, I think they are equivalent.
3. "My point is that I agree with what you said there but would say Gods love is taught by Jesus Christ in the gospel of his kingdom and he is the lawgiver . N other words We learn to love as Gods children from Gods son and are filled with his spirit as a companion To our own that’s being delivered." I agree that the HS's teaching ministry (John 16:12-14) coincides with us learning how to love more fully.
2. "Do you think the gospel of the kingdom of God the king came to preach and promise to believers has anything to do with the law of his kingdom?" Yes, I think they are equivalent.
3. "My point is that I agree with what you said there but would say Gods love is taught by Jesus Christ in the gospel of his kingdom and he is the lawgiver . N other words We learn to love as Gods children from Gods son and are filled with his spirit as a companion To our own that’s being delivered." I agree that the HS's teaching ministry (John 16:12-14) coincides with us learning how to love more fully.
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amen to all you said there
“John 16:12-14) coincides with us learning how to love more fully”
Do you think chapter 14 also would relate ?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. …
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:15-17, 21, 23-26 KJV
Or 15?
“Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.”
John 15:2-4, 6, 9-14 KJV
remember “the Holy Ghosts teachings begin here
“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
Luke 3:21-22 KJV
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15 KJV
Or really they began here
“knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV
just like Peter was later and as he was writing his epistles also thier teachings are the holy ghosts teachings is what I mean beginning with Jesus.
“John 16:12-14) coincides with us learning how to love more fully”
Do you think chapter 14 also would relate ?
“If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. …
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.
These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:15-17, 21, 23-26 KJV
Or 15?
“Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned. As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love. If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love. These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full. This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.”
John 15:2-4, 6, 9-14 KJV
remember “the Holy Ghosts teachings begin here
“Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, and the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.”
Luke 3:21-22 KJV
“Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God, and saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”
Mark 1:14-15 KJV
Or really they began here
“knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.”
2 Peter 1:20-21 KJV
just like Peter was later and as he was writing his epistles also thier teachings are the holy ghosts teachings is what I mean beginning with Jesus.