Applying God's Word to Politics

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GWH

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Again I hope y'all were able to view the debate between Kirk and CA governor Newsom that was aired on Charlie's show today on RAV TV.
Charlie is on a roll this week!
 

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Did you notice that in the recent election cycle GW was successfully applied to the transgender issue, eclipsing the homosexual issue?
Any thoughts about why that was?
 

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Did you notice that in the recent election cycle GW was successfully applied to the transgender issue, eclipsing the homosexual issue?
Any thoughts about why that was?
Okay, I will share my explanation, which is that normal human adults have what we call common sense that has a moral aspect
given by God, which enables souls to discern that humans have two nontransgenderable sexes, which even some homosexuals agree with.
 

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The current political machinations regarding the national budget prompt consideration of how to apply GW to that topic, such as
Matthew 19:21 (part): “…Give to the poor…” and Ephesians 4:28 (part): “…He must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.”

Although Jesus said that we will always have the poor with us (MT 26:11), the New Testament indicates that we should try to alleviate poverty in various ways such as by helping widows and orphans (JM 1:27). Hopefully, if the rich share their wealth, then poor people will not need to steal in order to survive.

The apostle Paul said (in 2THS 3:10) that “If a man will not work, he shall not eat” and again (in 1TM 5:8) that “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” His desire (per 2CR 8:13) is that there might be “equality”, which in this context seems to mean an equal opportunity to earn a living rather than mandatory conformity to a communist system.

In summary, we can discern that the will of God is for people who are able to work to seek employment, so that earning a fair wage will provide at least the basic necessities plus something (a tithe per Malachi 3:8-10) left over for charity, but how does this understanding affect our opinions about how much to spend for healthcare, retirement income and national defense?
 

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'', ,how does this understanding affect our opinions about how much to spend for healthcare, retirement income and national defense?
Somewhere between obligation and neccessity. We are (as I understand it) the most Gospel-rich nation on earth, and, as it would have it, few nations exceed our distribution of wealth to the common man. So, therein we are presented something more than neccessity. For ''those who have been given much, shall much be required.'' By and large, that seems to have played out well for healthcare and retirement, but, given the rails missing of that train run by that last admin., many a patriot wondered the same, “Can the, ,captives of a tyrant be rescued?” (Isaiah 49:24). Apparently, as DOGE has brought to light, the accounting has suffered for years with much resistance to being audited at all making a mockery of our check and balances.

Now, it seems some relief has transpired, seeing not just sweeping reforms, but a good old-fashioned shakedown decades over due so those spreadsheets will begin to make some educated sense of how much to spend on defense?
 

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Somewhere between obligation and neccessity. We are (as I understand it) the most Gospel-rich nation on earth, and, as it would have it, few nations exceed our distribution of wealth to the common man. So, therein we are presented something more than neccessity. For ''those who have been given much, shall much be required.'' By and large, that seems to have played out well for healthcare and retirement, but, given the rails missing of that train run by that last admin., many a patriot wondered the same, “Can the, ,captives of a tyrant be rescued?” (Isaiah 49:24). Apparently, as DOGE has brought to light, the accounting has suffered for years with much resistance to being audited at all making a mockery of our check and balances.

Now, it seems some relief has transpired, seeing not just sweeping reforms, but a good old-fashioned shakedown decades over due so those spreadsheets will begin to make some educated sense of how much to spend on defense?
Yes, and unfortunately the fix requires many on the government dole to experience some pain as we transition
to an economy in which they actually must work--at least until they are replaced by robots!
 

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Not sure how this relates to GW, but should a district court judge have the ability to stop a U.S. President's actions across the entire country? Surely not!

And if not, should the U.S. Supreme Court immediately step in to halt such judicial overreach by the district judge instead of warning the President against advocating for impeachment?
 

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The NT is mainly concerned with how to be saved and behave, but are there any teachings that are relevant for social policy? Jesus once stated that “the poor you will always have with you” (MT 26:11). However, He also taught us to “give to the poor” (MT 19:21). These verses suggest that we should do our best to alleviate, if not completely eliminate, the problems related to poverty.

We know that “You shall not steal” (EX 20:15) is the eighth of the Ten Commandments (TOJ #110). Yet, implicit in the command of Jesus is that if the rich share their wealth, then people will not need to steal in order to survive. The apostle Paul synthesized these two commands in Ephesians 4:28, saying: “He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need.”

Another command (in 2THS 3:10) states: “If a man will not work, he shall not eat.” Paul also states (in 1TM 5:8): “If anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for his immediate family, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.” And again, he wrote: “Our desire is not that others might be relieved while you are hard pressed, but that there might be equality.” (2CR 8:13) Equality does not require uniformity or conformity or a communist system, which often has resulted in a smaller pie to share, but rather that every person should have an equal opportunity to earn a living.

Sewing these verses together with spiritual thread, we can discern that the will of God is for people who are able to work to seek employment, so that earning a fair wage will provide at least the basic necessities plus something (a tithe or tenth per Malachi 3:8-10) left over for charity. Full employment at a livable wage is a wonderful goal; the problem is how to achieve it.