anyone a fan of Joyce Meyer ?
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Welcome to CC, dear sister Lucia! 
Joyce is good in the fun and entertainment department. She reminds me of Lucial Ball. Not sure if I would look for her to lead me to Jesus though. I am not familiar with what her doctrine is. Has she told you about how Jesus wants to have a personal relationship with you? Has she told you that we are all sinners in need of a Saviour?
Jesus loves you very much. He wants you to just ask Him into your heart to stay. Let His Spirit guide you unto all spiritual understanding as you study His Word (the Bible.)
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
Joyce is good in the fun and entertainment department. She reminds me of Lucial Ball. Not sure if I would look for her to lead me to Jesus though. I am not familiar with what her doctrine is. Has she told you about how Jesus wants to have a personal relationship with you? Has she told you that we are all sinners in need of a Saviour?
Jesus loves you very much. He wants you to just ask Him into your heart to stay. Let His Spirit guide you unto all spiritual understanding as you study His Word (the Bible.)
John 3:16
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
Revelation 3:20
“Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
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We all need support or help, and God has graciously provided us the same in the person of the Holy Ghost/Holy Spirit.
Please consider the following words of Jesus:
John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"
John 14:26
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
John 15:26
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:"
John 16:7
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter G3875 will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you."
In these verses, Jesus referred to "the Holy Ghost," or "the Spirit of truth," as "the Comforter." In the Greek, the word that was translated into English as "Comforter" is paraklētos, and it means someone who is called to one's side in order to assist them.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g3875/kjv/tr/0-1/
In fact, other Bible translations translate paraklētos into English as "advocate," "helper," or "counselor." Here is an example of what I am saying from the first verse that I cited in John 14:16.
https://biblehub.com/john/14-16.htm
The proper understanding of this word's actual meaning should greatly assist you in your quest for truth because God has not left you "comfortless," or without an "advocate," or without a "helper," or without a "counselor" in your quest for truth. In other words, God never intended for any of us to rely solely upon our own human intellects or our own memory retention skills where truth is concerned. Instead, he has always fully intended for us to rely upon the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit, who, again, is called "the Spirit of truth" and "the Spirit of Christ" in scripture, to not only teach us all things, but also to bring all things back to our remembrances. Help is available, at your asking, and it is available through the Holy Spirit who dwells inside of you as a Christian.
Do you understand what I am saying?
If you do, then simply shift your focus away from your own human intellect to the intellect of the Holy Spirit, and you will be just fine. He is the one who inspired the writing of the scriptures, and he is the one who knows exactly what they mean, and he is available to you 24/7.
1 John 2:27
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that none of us ever requires the help of human teachers, but I am most definitely suggesting to you that you need to filter everything that you hear through the Holy Spirit. Before you read your Bible, just pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you into all truth, and he will do just that.
Please consider the following words of Jesus:
John 14:16
"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;"
John 14:26
"But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
John 15:26
"But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:"
John 16:7
"Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter G3875 will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you."
In these verses, Jesus referred to "the Holy Ghost," or "the Spirit of truth," as "the Comforter." In the Greek, the word that was translated into English as "Comforter" is paraklētos, and it means someone who is called to one's side in order to assist them.
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g3875/kjv/tr/0-1/
In fact, other Bible translations translate paraklētos into English as "advocate," "helper," or "counselor." Here is an example of what I am saying from the first verse that I cited in John 14:16.
https://biblehub.com/john/14-16.htm
The proper understanding of this word's actual meaning should greatly assist you in your quest for truth because God has not left you "comfortless," or without an "advocate," or without a "helper," or without a "counselor" in your quest for truth. In other words, God never intended for any of us to rely solely upon our own human intellects or our own memory retention skills where truth is concerned. Instead, he has always fully intended for us to rely upon the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit, who, again, is called "the Spirit of truth" and "the Spirit of Christ" in scripture, to not only teach us all things, but also to bring all things back to our remembrances. Help is available, at your asking, and it is available through the Holy Spirit who dwells inside of you as a Christian.
Do you understand what I am saying?
If you do, then simply shift your focus away from your own human intellect to the intellect of the Holy Spirit, and you will be just fine. He is the one who inspired the writing of the scriptures, and he is the one who knows exactly what they mean, and he is available to you 24/7.
1 John 2:27
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
Just to be clear, I am not suggesting that none of us ever requires the help of human teachers, but I am most definitely suggesting to you that you need to filter everything that you hear through the Holy Spirit. Before you read your Bible, just pray for the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you into all truth, and he will do just that.
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You must. Pray that the Spirit guide you and start with the Gospel of John (KJV). This is God's personal letter and it is addressed directly to you. Hasn't Joyce told you this herself? She should have prompted you to open your hearts door to Jesus and read His Word straight off. That is the responsibility of every pastor that stands behind a pulpit. Jesus is waiting for you to do this so that He can give you that blessed assurance of your salvation.
Romans 8:16
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
Romans 8:16
“The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:”
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Dear sister Lucia, Joyce Meyers is as you well know a faith teacher. I think for women she has helped a lot giving a combination of a Joel Osteen and Kenneth Copland. As true with most teachers they are a bit off in some areas, but no one is perfect either! Example She believes Jesus was in hell and had to suffer there for a time before he could overcome the devil, this of course is very false, and she has no scripture to back this theory up. BUT!!!
She does encourage people to stay in the Word of God which is very good! She also identity's well with women problems such as fear and worry and helps greatly to encourage women to be strong! I think for women she has great value! I have heard her speak and even for men she causes them to think more about how to treat both a wife and girlfriend. So, all in all sister she is a plus for the Kingdom of God. At least to me.
She does encourage people to stay in the Word of God which is very good! She also identity's well with women problems such as fear and worry and helps greatly to encourage women to be strong! I think for women she has great value! I have heard her speak and even for men she causes them to think more about how to treat both a wife and girlfriend. So, all in all sister she is a plus for the Kingdom of God. At least to me.
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This is hardly an issue about "no one is perfect". Anyone who presumes to teach the Word of God has a moral duty to adhere to it strictly without twisting or misrepresenting it. But false teachers do not do that. They invent their own false doctrines. That is no minor issue, neither is it "a bit off".
Nehemiah I understand your point. It does not matter what other people think to them Holy Spirit is the one who corrects. (Acts 5:38-39) There must be a reason the Lord allows them. We may not understand it, but I sure will not fight against the Lord, will you??? LOL Good luck if you do!
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Have you tried listening to BBN or CSN?
These both have some pretty solid teachers for new believers and there's even some pretty solid meat evident as well. BBN I have less experience with (seemed solid enough considering) but CSN is more in the 90% range.
Charles Stanley might be good if you are just starting out...plenty of milk from what I could gather when I listened to him a few times.
It's a journey...a lot of preachers/teachers today engage in what the Bible calls "soulish talk" and while that isn't inherently bad, a balanced spiritual diet cannot have ONLY this type of thing.
So when you become aware of what the "meat of the Word" means you'll probably have to branch out a bit because each of us has different needs at different times.
I'd recommend looking for a church and to pray often. You might need a group of people to study the Bible with or even just get together to read (it's a lot easier for some to read in a group). There are also audio bibles.
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Each of our eyes are opened at different rates. If a person is a genuine believer then the Holy Spirit will lead them to what they need if they keep their eyes fixed aright. I've experienced it often enough that people literally took the good and left the bad (not being even aware of what was bad and being led elsewhere). Pointing these kind of things out to a new believer might do more harm than good especially if the Lord isn't the one doing it.
I think take the good and leave the bad applies but this was an automated process for most of my childhood (see above statement). Definitely happened to me in my formative years
Certainly you shouldn't neglect prayer and reading the Bible but you may need to read with a group. Reach out if you can't find one. It's no one size fits all solution and while that can be quite frustrating...gotta accept it regardless.
These both have some pretty solid teachers for new believers and there's even some pretty solid meat evident as well. BBN I have less experience with (seemed solid enough considering) but CSN is more in the 90% range.
Charles Stanley might be good if you are just starting out...plenty of milk from what I could gather when I listened to him a few times.
It's a journey...a lot of preachers/teachers today engage in what the Bible calls "soulish talk" and while that isn't inherently bad, a balanced spiritual diet cannot have ONLY this type of thing.
So when you become aware of what the "meat of the Word" means you'll probably have to branch out a bit because each of us has different needs at different times.
I'd recommend looking for a church and to pray often. You might need a group of people to study the Bible with or even just get together to read (it's a lot easier for some to read in a group). There are also audio bibles.
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Each of our eyes are opened at different rates. If a person is a genuine believer then the Holy Spirit will lead them to what they need if they keep their eyes fixed aright. I've experienced it often enough that people literally took the good and left the bad (not being even aware of what was bad and being led elsewhere). Pointing these kind of things out to a new believer might do more harm than good especially if the Lord isn't the one doing it.
I think take the good and leave the bad applies but this was an automated process for most of my childhood (see above statement). Definitely happened to me in my formative years
Certainly you shouldn't neglect prayer and reading the Bible but you may need to read with a group. Reach out if you can't find one. It's no one size fits all solution and while that can be quite frustrating...gotta accept it regardless.
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@Lucia
I am happy you being encouraged by the preaching of Joyce Meyer. You know, don't be offended of those who point out the dangers of Joyce Meyer. You are new believer and you need to vigilant aswell. And in your title you do ask if someone feel the same way. But be open and humble.
The false teaching may not be on the surface as you still new believer. But after listening to her teaching. In your personal devotion and quiet time go over the scripture passages yourself but always pray when you open the scriptures. I speak from experience. Be humble and ask for wisdom, God in His time will reveal what she is teaching is biblical. These WOF ministers are very dangerous but the Holy spirit will lead and guide you. Stay in the word. And in the meantime enjoying the Joyce Meyer.
I am happy you being encouraged by the preaching of Joyce Meyer. You know, don't be offended of those who point out the dangers of Joyce Meyer. You are new believer and you need to vigilant aswell. And in your title you do ask if someone feel the same way. But be open and humble.
The false teaching may not be on the surface as you still new believer. But after listening to her teaching. In your personal devotion and quiet time go over the scripture passages yourself but always pray when you open the scriptures. I speak from experience. Be humble and ask for wisdom, God in His time will reveal what she is teaching is biblical. These WOF ministers are very dangerous but the Holy spirit will lead and guide you. Stay in the word. And in the meantime enjoying the Joyce Meyer.