Anxiety

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p_rehbein

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Anxiety is a common emotion that effects people around the world. It is not limited to a certain race, sex or age. IMO, it can be a crippling experience, and possibly lead to suicide.

Defined as: a feeling of worry, nervousness, or unease, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome.


a mental condition characterized by excessive apprehensiveness about real or perceived threats, typically leading to avoidance behaviors and often to physical symptoms such as increased heart rate and muscle tension:

However, Christians who find themselves suffering from a bout of anxiety can take heart in knowing that God can care for them and ease their anxious fears. In Scripture we learn how to overcome anxiety.


Hebrews 13:6 - So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Philippians 4:6-7 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Psalms 32:8-10 - I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.

God knows all we are going through, and all the trials that beset us. We need only to turn to Him, to trust in Him, and to allow His boundless love for us to ease our fears and guide us through the troubled waters we find ourselves in. Turn to God. Call His name and invite Him in to deal with whatever is causing your anxiousness, and He will ease your spirit and bring peace to your heart and mind and soul.

God bless
 

PaulThomson

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Anxiety is a common emotion that effects people around the world. It is not limited to a certain race, sex or age. IMO, it can be a crippling experience, and possibly lead to suicide.

Defined as: a feeling of worry, nervousness, or unease, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome.


a mental condition characterized by excessive apprehensiveness about real or perceived threats, typically leading to avoidance behaviors and often to physical symptoms such as increased heart rate and muscle tension:

However, Christians who find themselves suffering from a bout of anxiety can take heart in knowing that God can care for them and ease their anxious fears. In Scripture we learn how to overcome anxiety.


Hebrews 13:6 - So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Philippians 4:6-7 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Psalms 32:8-10 - I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.

God knows all we are going through, and all the trials that beset us. We need only to turn to Him, to trust in Him, and to allow His boundless love for us to ease our fears and guide us through the troubled waters we find ourselves in. Turn to God. Call His name and invite Him in to deal with whatever is causing your anxiousness, and He will ease your spirit and bring peace to your heart and mind and soul.

God bless
Depression is caused by overly focussing on the past. Anxiety by overly focussing on the fiuture. Peace comes with surrendering those to God and Christ and living in the present trusting in Their goodness and faithfulness.
 

homwardbound

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Anxiety is a common emotion that effects people around the world. It is not limited to a certain race, sex or age. IMO, it can be a crippling experience, and possibly lead to suicide.

Defined as: a feeling of worry, nervousness, or unease, typically about an imminent event or something with an uncertain outcome.


a mental condition characterized by excessive apprehensiveness about real or perceived threats, typically leading to avoidance behaviors and often to physical symptoms such as increased heart rate and muscle tension:

However, Christians who find themselves suffering from a bout of anxiety can take heart in knowing that God can care for them and ease their anxious fears. In Scripture we learn how to overcome anxiety.


Hebrews 13:6 - So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

Philippians 4:6-7 - Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

Psalms 32:8-10 - I will instruct thee and teach thee in the way which thou shalt go: I will guide thee with mine eye.

God knows all we are going through, and all the trials that beset us. We need only to turn to Him, to trust in Him, and to allow His boundless love for us to ease our fears and guide us through the troubled waters we find ourselves in. Turn to God. Call His name and invite Him in to deal with whatever is causing your anxiousness, and He will ease your spirit and bring peace to your heart and mind and soul.

God bless
The fact that Christ died once for all is a stress relief in itself, until troubles come along to get anyone beset in them. The here and now life to get through is not an easy one at all, here on this earth.
Yet, those that will not stop belief to God Father in risen Son for them will eventually see through it all. Will learn new and stop ignorance of the deceiving of people, themselves included, being made new in awareness of things we, have done wrong and seed now, were not good for us, such as worry.
Jesus asked, Will Worry add

Matthew 6:25-34
Therefore I say unto you, Take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment? Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they? Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature? ...

In thought, about the question of Jesus, worry has never added anything to my stature, my person, has never made me a better person, only it has caused me to try harder and harder and harder over and over until the stress got to me to floor me as a no good person. Then others I see as if are doing better than me I give allegiance to those people. I got, get used and abused, not seeing it, being controlled, led by others in religion and not religion, those not in belief of the risen God, yet know he is risen and use that to get me to abide in them, thinking I am abiding in God. NOT! I found out as Paul speaks of this in Romans 7:10
Stress
S-adistic
T-ravail
E-verlatsingly
S-tressing
S-alvation


Stress is having doubt, gets me trying to do what no other can do but God who has already done it for us in Son as risen to rest in. That I find I did not and am still learning daily to daily be dead in my first born person, love to God in the risen Son presently to rest in


Authorized (King James) Version
Hebrews 4:9-13
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

It is "Unbelief" to not rest in the done work of God. Not seeing truth,
It is done, finished John 19:30, what is done?
The fulfilling of the Law and Prophets of Jesus is what got done. The Law itself is not done (Matt 5:17-18) The Law that is left is for the Law breakers, those that do not believe God finished it for them to be given new life in the the risen Christ Alive presently and forever to never die ever again for anymore sin ever
The problem at hand is the unredeemed flesh nature in each person. That problem is driven by "unbelief". That is in our way, at least has been in my way. When truth is: it is not unredeemed anymore by God's done work of Son for us. So be dead to the first birth, presently as that is the present of God to us all to stay in thanksgiving and praise to this truth it is done, we are reconciled, forgiven and there is no more reconciliation to be given, whether one sins again or not. it is done from Father God's view by Son, where new life in the risen Son is at, to begin in us, each person: Romans 6 reveals this truth, to me from God at least, maybe y'all too.
We are reconciled by God through the done work of Son on that cross

Luke 21:14-15

Authorized (King James) Version

Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: for I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
 

jacko

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In real life, million of christians struggle with anxiety every day whether it be divorce, losing a job, health issues, death, finances, etc.
If you aren't anxious with out a job and don't know how you are going to pay the mortgage you aren't human.
 

PaulThomson

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In real life, million of christians struggle with anxiety every day whether it be divorce, losing a job, health issues, death, finances, etc.
If you aren't anxious with out a job and don't know how you are going to pay the mortgage you aren't human.
That's the hasty generalisation fallacy.

In other words, “if it's true in this case, then it is true in all cases.” Hasty generalization fallacy example “I've met two people in Greece so far, and they were both nice to me. So, all the people I will meet in Greece will be nice to me.” Here, the speaker makes an absolute statement.
 

Karlon

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the Christian definition of anxiety is: misplaced priorities in life! anxiety also breeds from lack of confidence, laziness & selfishness, a lack of ambition & weltzmerstz, which is a sadly outlook on life!!!
 

Mem

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Roughly 10 years or so ago, I had a dream that vaguely mapped out my adventure in this world ("it's not an adventure if there is no faith involved," paraphrasing an observation I recently heard JBPeterson make). I won't go into the details leading up to the conclusion of the dream, other than to let you know that I think I'm currently at that juncture, finally. The end of the dream was a bit disturbing up to this point, not know what the symbolism might mean. I stepped out of a chapel into its courtyard and a huge black helicopter was hovering over me, extremely close enough that if I could garner enough extra oomph, even just a little, I could grab onto its landing feet. But it was just out of reach... but it hovered over me just that far/close.

Lately, I've been getting progressive revelations that I was at that juncture and so I became more anxious about what it meant, exactly, and so ramped up my requests to know it.

And just the other day, it dawned on me when I saw a YouTube video about Trump's secret service... according to the video (sorry I can't recall the title, atm, to link it for you) DJ uses a body guard that he personally chose, and currently has the option to decline use of the US's SS but, if he is elected as the next President (again) he no longer has that option. There is no refusing the services of these "men in black" once he has taken that office, and neither can any of his family.

Before, what had troubled me was that the helicopter in my dream was black, but now that actually comforts me. I had worried that I might have been seeing a terrible formidable foe with its scoped locked on me was actually the symbolism of my very own personal secret service keeping vigilante close guard over me! An AirHen brooding over its chick!

I mean, I AM THE Most President One's daughter, after all! I used to be anxious about many things, like Martha, but now am sure that I know only one thing, like Mary, is necessary, and I have chosen it. And that will not be taken from me.

 

jacko

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That's the hasty generalisation fallacy.

In other words, “if it's true in this case, then it is true in all cases.” Hasty generalization fallacy example “I've met two people in Greece so far, and they were both nice to me. So, all the people I will meet in Greece will be nice to me.” Here, the speaker makes an absolute statement.
go into the prayer forums on this this chat site and tell me those people who are desperately praying for their situation aren’t anxious about their situation. These are Our Christian brother and sisters.
 

jacko

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the Christian definition of anxiety is: misplaced priorities in life! anxiety also breeds from lack of confidence, laziness & selfishness, a lack of ambition & weltzmerstz, which is a sadly outlook on life!!!
If you get cancer and you don’t have medical insurance… and you have two young kids and you don’t have life insurance tell me exactly how you’re feeling….

There are levels to stress… not talking about you had a bad day… I’m talking about real life drama…
Can we pray that the Lord calm, our hearts, of course, but those need deliverance from their situation.
 

rrcn

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That's the hasty generalisation fallacy.

In other words, “if it's true in this case, then it is true in all cases.” Hasty generalization fallacy example “I've met two people in Greece so far, and they were both nice to me. So, all the people I will meet in Greece will be nice to me.” Here, the speaker makes an absolute statement.
Would you consider empathy to be a fruit or the spirit?
[Rom 12:15 KJV] 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
 

PaulThomson

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Would you consider empathy to be a fruit or the spirit?
[Rom 12:15 KJV] 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
Yes. But where does it ever say, "Be anxious with those who are anxious. Be depressed with those who are depressed."
 

PaulThomson

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go into the prayer forums on this this chat site and tell me those people who are desperately praying for their situation aren’t anxious about their situation. These are Our Christian brother and sisters.
We Christians do a lot of things we don't need to do that are unhelpful for us to do. That does not mean those things are God's will. God's will is "Don't be anxious. Be anxious about nothing. Do not fear. Be of good courage." God still loves us, but sometimes our world and self focus makes it harder for us to abide in and enjoy confidence that God loves us.
 

Gideon300

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If you get cancer and you don’t have medical insurance… and you have two young kids and you don’t have life insurance tell me exactly how you’re feeling….

There are levels to stress… not talking about you had a bad day… I’m talking about real life drama…
Can we pray that the Lord calm, our hearts, of course, but those need deliverance from their situation.
A few years ago, I had a heart problem, atrial fibrillation. There is a high risk of stroke. The treatment was to stop and restart my heart. Obviously it was a Microsoft operating system. (Joke).

The ordeal took about 12 hours. I was at peace the whole time. I've learned to cast my care on the Lord.

About three years ago, I had pancreatitis. That illness has a 30% fatality rate. It is also one of the most painful. That ordeal lasted 8 days. I was so at peace that one of the doctors complained that I was not taking it seriously enough. No, I was at peace because I knew that Lord Jesus was in control.

This is not to boast or judge others who do suffer worry and fear. I've had more than my fair share of that over the years. But it is possible to come to a place where peace in difficulty is easier to obtain. It's part of Christian growth.
 

Publican

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In real life, million of christians struggle with anxiety every day whether it be divorce, losing a job, health issues, death, finances, etc.
If you aren't anxious with out a job and don't know how you are going to pay the mortgage you aren't human.
Practically speaking yes. Anxiety cannot be avoided, but it can be surrendered. "Cast your cares upon Him", " be anxious for nothing" etc.
If we don't let go of our anxiety, our cares, we are not walking in faith. Now should that anxiety reach clinical proportions that's a whole different story. But as I believe that most mental illness is of a spiritual nature, I would say that if a Christian is suffering from debilitating anxiety or depression, its only because they have not yet received their healing.
I know this will not be a popular opinion with some, but I would rather get my healing from the Great Physician than a "professional".
 

jacko

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A few years ago, I had a heart problem, atrial fibrillation. There is a high risk of stroke. The treatment was to stop and restart my heart. Obviously it was a Microsoft operating system. (Joke).

The ordeal took about 12 hours. I was at peace the whole time. I've learned to cast my care on the Lord.

About three years ago, I had pancreatitis. That illness has a 30% fatality rate. It is also one of the most painful. That ordeal lasted 8 days. I was so at peace that one of the doctors complained that I was not taking it seriously enough. No, I was at peace because I knew that Lord Jesus was in control.

This is not to boast or judge others who do suffer worry and fear. I've had more than my fair share of that over the years. But it is possible to come to a place where peace in difficulty is easier to obtain. It's part of Christian growth.

I pray, Lord remove my thorn, or level up my faith, but do not me leave me in the desert of despair.
 

Publican

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Yes. But where does it ever say, "Be anxious with those who are anxious. Be depressed with those who are depressed."
Before someone else quotes it,
I will.
" rejoice with those who rejoice, mourn with those who mourn".
And no, mourning is not anxiety or depression, grief is a very different thing. I am absolutely not supposed to share in anyone's anxiety. You are 100% correct.
 

Blade

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Fear not, for I am with you; be not dismayed, for I am your God; I will strengthen you, I will help you, I will uphold you with my righteous right hand.

And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus

Peace I leave with you; My peace I give to you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled; do not be afraid.

So we don't trust Him, we don't have faith in what He said. I just put up three. The 1st one 3 times its originally written "I will". Three times He said it. Then the peace of God "will guard". Christ .. who only said what our Father said "my peace I give to you".

Sarah laughed at Him.. what is to hard for the lord. I find I ..I think I have for a while been sharing to much. Have a friend.. oh man he is so like a brother.. a pastor in Washington. Over time I tell him all the wonders God has been doing.. and what God has been saying to me and whats been going on. Then one day I get this letter saying how blessed I am and on and on then he goes into all the stuff that has happen to him over the years. You would have to be blind to not see what he was saying. That really really hurt. Not what he said.. yeah we should always share all the good things our lord is and has done and never share stories that give the enemy glory but .. what I did and man I never meant to...

So after a few months.. I just couldn't write back.. I felt so awful. But I did what I never do and never tell anyone.. the other side.. just really made him want to reach out.. call me. Gonna leave this. Well what does it have to do with anxiety worry doubt. So.. those are verses I use.... worry wart comes to mind.. Seems its something GOD once said and.. it means someone that worries about nothing. HAHA then coming from Him.. yeah.. it would be nothing.. He is the answer. Ya didn't ask.. but.. thanks for letting me say it..
 

p_rehbein

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Would you consider empathy to be a fruit or the spirit?
[Rom 12:15 KJV] 15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.
Not so much a fruit of the Spirit IMO. Even the unsaved can be empathetic towards the situations of others. I do think it is a good thing!