Angels can procreate

[Magenta]

It was Yesterday!

You mean, you've been like a yapping poodle at my ankles all morning because You MISSED MY ORIGINAL APOLOGY?

Geeeeeeeze, just my lucky day

Oh I see. You are hanging onto what happened yesterday while demanding
I let go of it. Yes, I get it. Your standard is not only shoddy, but double.

There is a very good Biblical word that describes what you are doing. It is "hypocrisy."

I was at my daughter's for a good deal of yesterday.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Oh I see. You are hanging onto what happened yesterday while demanding
I let go of it. Yes, I get it. Your standard is not only shoddy, but double.

I was at my daughter's for a good deal of yesterday. Yes, it is true: I do not hang on every word you say.

No, Yesterday's conversation was about a different topic but today is about this Topic and I went through some of your post history in this THREAD ONLY and see how you think about this specific Topic. For me, yesterday never happened until I think I am being reminded of something I might have done on yesterday.

 

[Godsgirl1983]

Hypothetically from your point of view, If there is no sex in heaven will you still want to go there?

I hope there is.

John, you are dodging the direct question again.
You are not being asked what you hope is there
(in fact, in all the accounts I've heard from people visiting Heaven and returning- both biblically accurate and those that are obviously made up- no one I have heard has EVER claimed of witnessing sex in heaven)
what you ARE being asked is if it's not going on there will YOU still want to be there?
(keep in mind if you don't end up in Heaven what the other option is)

 

[Magenta]

You mean, you've been like a yapping poodle at my ankles all morning because You MISSED MY ORIGINAL APOLOGY?

No, not really. You are saying today that if the Bible doesn't specifically say something, you can only guess at the meaning, and/or it can definitely only mean what you decide it means. Giving examples to show how this is not true, examples I believe you can relate to because we have already talked about these topics, and very recently too, as you say, just yesterday, does not make me like a yapping poodle. But, just to let you know, I am not going to automatically forget everything you have said previously just because you may be embarrassed by what you have said in the past, or not said it this very day. I am also aware that yesterday was not the first time we "discussed" whether Jesus was an in vitro baby, since we were talking about this a month ago as well. To me it is like an ongoing conversation. Also, sometimes it takes a few times discussing a topic with someone before coming to a fuller understanding of what the other believes.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

John, if you're part of the Chuck Smith Movement, that resulted into this Film, Jesus Revolution. That was in 70's/80's California. That was coming out of the Peace and groovy Love era. Just about anything with a heartbeat probably was breaking many Biblical Laws concerning Sex. And you missed this, even though, this is Your mother Church Base and you were in and a part of that Crowd? You be hiding something..

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

No, not really. You are saying today that if the Bible doesn't specifically say something, you can only guess at the meaning, and/or it can definitely only mean what you decide it means. Giving examples to show how this is not true, examples I believe you can relate to because we have already talked about these topics, and very recently too, as you say, just yesterday, does not make me like a yapping poodle. But, just to let you know, I am not going to automatically forget everything you have said previously just because you may be embarrassed by what you have said in the past, or not said this very day. I am also aware that yesterday was not the first time we "discussed" whether Jesus was an in vitro baby, since we were talking about this a month ago as well. To me it is like an ongoing conversation.

No, I am saying that a Version that goes from Hebrew to English is better and more secure translation than one that goes from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English.

And since Hebrew is the Language Moses wrote in, it can be thought and accepted he was given these Scripture by God in the Hebrew Language. So, using the Hebrew gives us more security that this is actually God's Word.

 

[Magenta]

No, I am saying that a Version that goes from Hebrew to English is better and more
secure translation than one that goes from Hebrew to Greek to Latin to English.

And since Hebrew is the Language Moses wrote in, it can be thought and accepted he was given these Scripture
by God in the Hebrew Language. So, using the Hebrew gives us more security that this is actually God's Word.

We are still not told that God spoke Hebrew to Moses. You make that assumption and express it as a fact.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

We are still not told that God spoke Hebrew to Moses. You make that assumption and express it as a fact.

Who Cares, why does this matter when we do know the Bible was written in Hebrew? If God told it in Pig Latin but Moses wrote it in Hebrew then HEBREW is the HOLY WORD of GOD! There is NO debating this!

 

[Magenta]

Who Cares, why does this matter when we do know the Bible was written in Hebrew? If God told it in Pig Latin but Moses wrote it in Hebrew then HEBREW is the HOLY WORD of GOD! There is NO debating this!

It matters because you said

so, if the bible doesn't tell us then they are not HUMAN!

I took that to mean that the Bible must say something explicitly, in your view, for it to be
taken as a fact. You have expressed this idea a number of times over a number of posts and
now basically say, so what if the Bible does not tell us something explicitly, it doesn't matter?
If what you say does not matter, what is the point of anyone speaking to you at all?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

It matters because you said

I took that to mean that the Bible must say something explicitly, in your view, for it to be
taken as a fact. You have expressed this idea a number of times over a number of posts and
now basically say, so what if the Bible does not tell us something explicitly, it doesn't matter?
If what you say does not matter, what is the point of speaking to you at all?

I don't care how you choose to view it at all. that is wonderful that you feel as strongly as you do. I just said what I believe and why based off the Hebrew. You don't have to believe anything I post. I just am using a factual Torah that is similar to those that go back to Temple days, but online. I know anything that God instructed to be used in His Temple, in those days, must mean it is FACTUAL! So, I take the Torah to be Factual because God did and had it in His Temple when that existed. The Torah was God's Choice of Holy Word of God for the Temple, so, it's definitely good enough for Me!

 

[Magenta]

And the woman are HUMAN but the men are not. So impossible for them to have sex.

There are commandments against bestiality. Why? In your view, humans having sex with animals is impossible.

Exodus 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.”

Leviticus 18:23 “Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman
must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.”

Leviticus 20:15-16 “If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you
must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both
the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

Deuteronomy 27:21 “Cursed is the man who has sexual relations with any animal.”

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

There are commandments against bestiality. Why? In your view, humans having sex with animals is impossible.

Exodus 22:19 “Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.”

Leviticus 18:23 “Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman
must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.”

Leviticus 20:15-16 “If a man has sexual relations with an animal, he must be put to death, and you
must kill the animal. If a woman approaches an animal to have sexual relations with it, kill both
the woman and the animal. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.”

Deuteronomy 27:21 “Cursed is the man who has sexual relations with any animal.”

Animals are made to REPRODUCE so they have similar parts to the Human.

 

[Magenta]

Animals are made to REPRODUCE so they have similar parts to the Human.

And kind reproduces after kind. Angel babies were never born.

People often talk about how angels took the form of man, and reproduced with women.

In your view, were their "parts" not the same as men?

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

And kind reproduces after kind. Angel babies were never born.

People often talk about how angels took the form of man, and reproduced with women.

In your view, were their "parts" not the same as men?

Believe what you want to.

I believe the Version of the Bible that God had in His Temple.

And to just point out, what God had in His Temple is a Replica of what is Still in the Heavenly Temple.

I use that Version of the Bible!

 

[Magenta]

Believe what you want to.

I believe the Version of the Bible that God had in His Temple.

And that version does not exist, so...? The more I speak to you, the less logical you come across.

That may not matter to you, but it should to any who engage you.

And since what you say cannot be applied more uniformly across a
wider spectrum of your beliefs, you hold to a standard that is untenable.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

And that version does not exist, so...? The more I speak to you, the less logical you come across.

That may not matter to you, but it should to any who engage you.

It DOES Exist!

Research, it's peoples friend!

 

[Magenta]

It DOES Exist!

Research, it's peoples friend!

The books of the Bible were initially written and copied by hand on papyrus scrolls. No originals survive.

For you to say you believe the Version of the Bible that God had in His Temple? Is a figment of your imagination.

And quite frankly, more evidence that your lack of logic is a glaring fact that should concern you.

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

The books of the Bible were initially written and copied by hand on papyrus scrolls. No originals survive.

For you to say you believe the Version of the Bible that God had in His Temple? Is a figment of your imagination.

And quite frankly, more evidence that your lack of logic is a glaring fact that should concern you.

Why do some Protestant groups believe the Jews are morons and could not keep their Bible together?

There's an actual historical + Scientific + Authentic dating and such all in this process involved to know it's Word for Word with the Torah's, there were 7 of them and 5 survived 70 AD, and today's Version are Copies made from the surviving Torah's and Tanakh's.

It is a Proven Fact whether you like it or not!

There's more evidence of this Torah being Accurate than You can find Sources that Jesus actually existed [without using the Bible], and You and I know He did!

 

[Magenta]

And to just point out, what God had in His Temple is a Replica of what is Still in the Heavenly Temple.

I use that Version of the Bible!

Now you are telling us you have been to and had access to and read what is in heaven? .

 

[The_Watchers_2017]

Now you are telling us you have been to and had access to and read what is in heaven? .

I See!
Hyperbole, is the newest Theme.