Where does the Bible tell us that God spoke Hebrew? I am simply applying
your standard here. The Bible does not say that, so why do you assume it?
Angels can procreate
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your standard here. The Bible does not say that, so why do you assume it?
But I don't know the process, I am guessing like anyone else.
But i know when the Bible says specifically HUMAN WOMEN but does not label the men, that means these are not human men.
It's your standard too!
You think the men are human when the Bible only tells us the Women are. The Bible is ALWAYS Right!
That is your guess, sure, but it is not the only conclusion to be drawn. Your insistence that it is, is a logical fallacy.
הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָ֘רֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנ֣וֹת הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּה הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעוֹלָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃ {פ}
It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth—when divine beings cohabited with the human women, who bore them offspring. Such were the heroes of old, the men of renown.
Notice, the HEBREW, Divine Beings are the MEN and HUMAN WOMEN
Notice, NO SEX...only COHABITED!!
It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth—when divine beings cohabited with the human women, who bore them offspring. Such were the heroes of old, the men of renown.
Notice, the HEBREW, Divine Beings are the MEN and HUMAN WOMEN
Notice, NO SEX...only COHABITED!!
The Bible tells us the men are human too, it just uses different words to exemplify certain characteristics about them.
Language is not monolithic, there are different ways to say the same thing or different things. Context is the key.
When Jesus called people children of the devil, were they in vitro created that way by Satan also?
It is a Story that describes who was involved. Human Women and .....just m
הַנְּפִלִ֞ים הָי֣וּ בָאָ֘רֶץ֮ בַּיָּמִ֣ים הָהֵם֒ וְגַ֣ם אַֽחֲרֵי־כֵ֗ן אֲשֶׁ֨ר יָבֹ֜אוּ בְּנֵ֤י הָֽאֱלֹהִים֙ אֶל־בְּנ֣וֹת הָֽאָדָ֔ם וְיָלְד֖וּ לָהֶ֑ם הֵ֧מָּה הַגִּבֹּרִ֛ים אֲשֶׁ֥ר מֵעוֹלָ֖ם אַנְשֵׁ֥י הַשֵּֽׁם׃ {פ}
It was then, and later too, that the Nephilim appeared on earth—when divine beings cohabited with the human women, who bore them offspring. Such were the heroes of old, the men of renown.
Notice, the HEBREW, Divine Beings are the MEN and HUMAN WOMEN
Notice, NO SEX...only COHABITED!!
Look, this Story is only for how the Nephilim got on Earth, this has nothing to do with You or Myself getting here.
We still are in the lineage of Noah at this point.
You were the one who said we would be told something if it were a fact. Jesus told certain people they were children of the
devil, that the devil was their father. Surely if you are consistent in how you interpret the Bible, that can only mean one thing,
that being, that the devil impregnated women the same way you are saying other angels impregnated women to bear children.
It doesn't matter. Get past it. We are discussing THIS TODAY not what's on your mind from yesterday.
The Fact is, the Bible is clear HUMAN WOMEN, Divine Beings as Men, we come from Noah, not this Story about Nephilim..
Nephilim are people too.
You have been watching too much science fiction and then thinking it connects to the Bible.
I will leave to your beyond reality theories. This kind of extrapolating to the extreme from scripture does not interest me.
I see you do not want to be held to your very own standard. It is shoddy. I understand.
The Bible does not say Nephilim were angel babies. Your standard fails again.
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NO, Nephilim are 50% human.
This is why I know this doesn't make sense because you read your KJV instead of reading the Ancient History and beliefs of the Hebrew People.
The Hebrew People believe the Nephilim are Demons and why God has Moses kill them all.
Saul was supposed to kill them but disobeyed.
You really need to know how the Hebrews looked at this. itis THEIR STORY being told. We should at least look at it from how they SAW IT!
I am HUMAN and make many errors. I did admit to already being wrong. But you want me to admit for the next 20 posts. I meant it the first time I offered it! It has not changed.
I did not see the admission you refer to here...
My experience with you is you say something in error and then repeat it quite a few times even after being repeatedly corrected.
where does it say that they could? There was a law given at that time.
Do you know what it said?
Read Genesis 4: 15
15 And the Lord said to him, “Therefore, whoever kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold.” And the Lord set a mark on Cain, lest anyone finding him should kill him.
This same law was repeated by Lamech, who killed a man, it seems he said to his wives.
23 Then Lamech said to his wives:
“Adah and Zillah, hear my voice;
Wives of Lamech, listen to my speech!
For I have killed a man for wounding me,
Even a young man for hurting me.
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold,
Then Lamech seventy-sevenfold.”
Where did he get that idea about avenged sevenfold? it was a law of the land, was it not?
If you read, there are many things we know from these chapters that men were doing to show the depravity of sin in men.
- Not all were " walking with God
- they were marrying and giving in marriage as Jesus said they were noticed the more than one wife
- they were still killing each other
- they were wicked, and we know it had to do with perversion and "the thoughts of his heart was only evil "Gen 6:5
Matt 24:37-39
37 But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
The sin of men and evil in his heart. They did not walk with GOD. They were offering things to God He rejected; they murdered and killed and did not show grace or mercy. That is all in Genesis chapter 4 to 6
It was Yesterday!
You mean, you've been like a yapping poodle at my ankles all morning because You MISSED MY ORIGINAL APOLOGY?
Geeeeeeeze, just my lucky day
The Bible refutes that notion also. The context is false prophets and their lusts.
2 PETER 2: JUDGMENTS FOR SEXUAL SINS AND PERVERSIONS
A. JUDGMENT ON WICKED ANGELS IMPRISONED IN TARTARUS FOR SEXUAL SINS
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to [TARTARUS], and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
B. JUDGMENT ON WICKED HUMANS THROUGH THE FLOOD
5And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
C. JUDGMENT ON SODOM AND GOMORRAH FOR SEXUAL SINS
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; 7And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:8 For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;
D. JUDGMENT ON THE UNRIGHTEOUS (UNJUST) FOR ALL SIN AND EVIL
9The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
E. JUDGMENT ON FALSE PROPHETS FOR SEXUAL SINS
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities
Jude confirms what Peter said about the angels, Sodom and Gomorrah and false prophets and their lusts ("defile the flesh"): 6And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
In each passage the context makes it clear that sexual sins and perversions are being judged. So anyone who claims that angels did not commit fornication with human women is refusing to believe God.