Amust read and why we need the King James

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breno785au

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But back to the subject everyone.

Is it just me or are we being attacked by ads. Other web sites don't do this just CC. Whats up. Do I have bug or does the website have a bug
Its to help pay for the running costs of the site I hear because the donations haven't met their target, and by the way I agree with what your saying, I usually always check out what the verse says in KJV if something I'm reading pops out at me and also Strong's to get a deeper essence of what the scripture is saying. Fellowship with the Holy Spirit is just as important, He guides us.
 
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2Thewaters

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/It can be easily demonstrated that the king james once saved always saved predestination stand while you pray church changed major words in the Bible

get the king james
click on each word and see what the ORIGINAL GREEK REALLY SAYS
you do it
they really did some massaging on it didnt they?

also
The Big C church dont acknowledge king james at all they have the duoy version wich is from a complete other Bible
so him talking about the BIG C and KING james show he is basically ignorant
Big C killed 200,million christians who dared to read the bible
used to BURN people who read the king james and the papyrus copies in their homes...
 
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The Christian religion is closely connected with the race that God reached down to us and created, the Hebrew race. It was first written in Hebrew, the Hebrews were chosen to show us how God reacts to what we do on earth, Christ was a Hebrew, and almost every single person God spoke His words through was a Hebrew.

What we need is a thorough understanding of Hebrew as it was understood by the different centuries the people lived in when God's word was spoken to them from creation through to soon after Christ rose.

I think it is foolish to even discuss whether or not God spoke better through the people who lived 1,500 years after Christ rose or before or after. The problem is understanding the Hebrew the words were first written in, and the mindset of the Hebrew men who wrote in the Greek.
 
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Kerry

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Sorry y'all I have been in out fighting bug issues I think I finally got it. It's malware called 123srv and it's a booger to get rid of. But thank God I think I got it.
 
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2Thewaters

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The key is to be born again and have a intimate relationship with Jesus our husband with the holy spirit word of God without any man standing btween us

Jesuits were invented when Luther basically crushed the church
go read the JESUIT OATH if yo would
its on line
google it
Certainly Jesus would never behave like that...

it is real
it was recorded in
in the Journals of the 62nd Congress, 3rd Session, of the United States Congressional Record (House Calendar No. 397, Report No. 1523, 15 February, 1913, pp. 3215-3216),
 
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The key is to be born again and have a intimate relationship with Jesus our husband with the holy spirit word of God without any man standing btween us

Jesuits were invented when Luther basically crushed the church
go read the JESUIT OATH if yo would
its on line
google it
the 1st half of this post is great,
the 2nd half loses focus on the 1st.

if we focus on the past hurts, and the sins of other, or even the plans of the enemy,
then our focus is less on Christ.
 
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2Thewaters

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I just posted it cause this is what they dopresent tense
in all the churches and forums
 
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Kerry

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Yes we experienced believers can spot a trouble some passage by the inclination of the Holy Spirit. But young, weak brothers may be mislead by these new translation as the 19 year old girl above is mislead by her college professors. Big words in a forum like this usually means their trying to cover for something else. I love ya Liz and your here for a reason and sometimes the truth don't feel so good.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Please read James White's book "The King James Controversy" for a balanced approach and a very scriptural, as well as references to the original languages on this topic.


And for those of you who plan on reading James White's book, I strongly recommend that you also read this book by Peter S. Ruckman:



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This book by Peter Ruckman refutes James White's book.

Also, I encourage you to watch this video below where Ed Pfenninger exposes James White's lies and deception:



James White lies about 2Cor 2:17.



[video=youtube;OLk9Brq_GWc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLk9Brq_GWc[/video]


Aug 14, 2013

In this video I explain how James White again lies in his book, 'The King James Only Controversy', in this case, about 2Cor.2:17.
He states that the NKJ is correct in using the word 'peddle' for the Gr. word, when in fact, the correct usage is 'corrupt'. This is seen how the same Gr. word is used in Isa.1:22, where water is said to be mixed with wine, hence 'corrupting' the wine, a fact that White makes sure not to mention.
See also Thayer's Greek-English Lexicon which states, 'and most interp. rightly decide in favor of this meaning [corrupt] (on account of the context) in 2Cor.2:17 (pg.325)
 
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Usually I wouldn't even bother to get into the semantics of why evolution is a false doctrine. But let's pretend momentarily that I'm an atheist and I don't have the creationist outlook on life that I have. I'll show you from the perspective of an atheist why evolution is a groundless and baseless "theory", and certainly not a fact. The arrogance by the way of that comment, in calling evolution a fact... is astounding to me.

Anyways,

1.) Single Cell Complexity Proves Evolution is Wrong

It wasn't that long ago when scientists believed the smallest single living cell was a simple life form. The theory developed that perhaps lightning struck a pond of water causing several molecules to combine in a random way which by chance resulted in a living cell. The cell then divided and evolved into higher life forms. This view is now proven to be immature to the degree of being ridiculous. The most modern laboratory is unable to create a living cell. In fact, scientists have been unable to create a single left-hand protein molecule as found in all animals.

2.) DNA Error Checking Proves Evolution is Wrong

The scientific fact that DNA replication includes a built-in error checking method and a DNA repair process proves the evolutionary theory is wrong. The fact is that any attempt by the DNA to change is stopped and reversed. Cells do not mutate on their own.

3.) Origin of Matter and Stars Proves Evolution is Wrong

Evolutionists just throw up their hands at the question of the origin of matter because they know something cannot evolve from nothing. They stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem. The fact that matter exists in outrageously large quantities simply proves evolution is wrong. The "Big Bang" theory doesn't solve the problem either. Matter and energy have to come from somewhere.


I'll leave it at that for now, these are three huge problems and gaps in the "theory" of evolution. Again, I've said this before to you, and I mean no offense in what I say, but before you defend a position so adamantly I think it's important that you first be aware of the facts. You're fastened onto these initial concepts you've adopted as your own and I think it's a dangerous thing to call evolution a fact when it has no evidence to support it's senselessness whatsoever.

The simple fact of the matter is, the building does not exist without a builder, and a garden cannot be without planters. That is the simplest way it can possibly be explained. Creation IS fact. Evolution is dependent on chance and time, which chance and time are filled to the brim with uncertainties, and anomalies that are not measurable or testable in any way shape or form.
None of what you've listed even remotely conflicts with the theory of evolution. At all. In essence, you've asserted two thinly-veiled arguments from ignorance alongside what might charitably be considered non sequitur, and you've asserted that these "problems" that don't exist are legitimately problematic to evolution on a scientific basis. That simply isn't true from a scientific perspective.

Your first assertion concerning the complexity of cells arbitrarily injects abiogenesis into an argument from a pathetic appeal to incredulity or an argument from a lack of imagination. "It's super complex, so it couldn't have come about on its own -- just because." Really, it's no better than that, and I think you know that. Beyond that, relatively recent scientific experiments have indeed created synthetic cells capable of replicating themselves and performing chemical reactions through functioning organelles. Feel absolutely free to look into it.

Your second point has no bearing on evolution at all, and would frankly be laughed at by geneticists. Evolution by natural selection doesn't occur on an individual basis for a given organism in a species; mutations that yield a competitive advantage occur as organisms reproduce and yield offspring that may be more competitive than their predecessors. There's a reason why mutations are so successful in quickly breeding desirable traits in organisms for humans via natural selection -- evolution simply accepts what works and tosses out what doesn't through extinction. Countless plants and animals have been artificially bred by humans, and beyond human interaction, there's no biological difference between natural and artificial selection. My cat with a bobbed tail that's sitting on my lap right now is evidence of evolution through mutations in offspring.

Your third point has nothing to do with evolution, and I frankly can't figure out what you're even attempting to get at, since theistic evolution is capable of answering the alleged incompatibility between theology and modern biological science. How in the world does the amount of matter in the universe "prove evolution as wrong"? How? I mean... What? Huh?

Again, none of this has any bearing on evolution at all. Really, you must understand that it's easily refuted by little more than a working, basic knowledge of how evolution actually works as opposed to a willfully ignorant set of misconceptions upon which to base meaningless straw men off of.
 
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Do you know how much fanciful storytelling goes on in evolutionary science? It's ridiculous. Makes the Grimm Fairy-tales seem plausible in comparison! Yes, believing in the Christian God takes great faith, but the alternative takes far greater faith.
I'm going to patiently reiterate that you're free to present valid evidence that contradicts the theory of evolution. :)
 
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LT

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no thread is safe.

Hide ya kidz, hide ya wife,
and hide ya husband
cause they trolling everyone out here.

fo real
 
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LT

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If pointing out a misconception is "trolling," you've been trolled hard by the scientific community, friend.
it's because the thread is about Bible versions, but then became about evolution.

more of a derail than a true troll, but the terms get fuzzy
 
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it's because the thread is about Bible versions, but then became about evolution.
Kerry implied that theistic evolution, which he believes is an attempt to reconcile his faith with a scientific phenomenon that he doesn't believe exists, is part of the "scheme" to "re-write the Bible." In addition, he implies that evolution has no bearing as being taught as a fact in public schools. I'm simply responding. That is not​ trolling.
 

ChosenbyHim

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Also, here is the corresponding Video to the excerpt mentioned in the O.P.


New Bible Version Conspiracy

[video=youtube;EcdY_JSqdsk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcdY_JSqdsk[/video]


Are the "New" Versions of the Bible REALLY about updating the "archaic" language of the KJV, or are they part of a conspiracy to destroy Bible-believing Christianity? This short video clip is just part of our new video, "Ridiculous Bible PerVersions Of The New Age." In this clip you will hear the testimony of Dr. Laurence Dunegan, who attended a meeting in 1969 where he was told that the Bible was going to be rewritten to form a "NEW RELIGION!" The whole video can be purchased in high quality at:


Home - King James Video Ministries
 
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SpaceCowboy

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I'm going to patiently reiterate that you're free to present valid evidence that contradicts the theory of evolution. :)
Nothing wrong with Science.
Question.
How do you correlate your faith with your beliefs?