Alcohol Damages Health

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A prohibition on drinking alcohol does not go against scripture. The scripture never commands us to drink alcohol to please God. If prohibition is the law of the land, then obey the law of the land.

"All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any."

Does it command us to eat food?? It tells us that we should drink a little wine for our health!

If you don’t want to drink that’s on you, but there is NO prohibition in Scripture.

-"for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
Romans 14:17 NKJV

This dispels any so called study about drinking fermented drinks:
-"No longer drink only water, but use a little winefor your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities."
I Timothy 5:23 NKJV

Many Christian from the last 200 yrs have been falsely led to believe in something that’s NOT in Scripture…..

Somebody added…. Rev. 22:18-19
 
In another thread there are drunks advocating for drinking the booze claiming it's healthy... but recent medical studies are now proving that NO amount of alcohol is healthy for one's body

it's known medical fact that alcohol is harmful to your health and Christians
have been bought with a price they are not their own and are called to glorify
God in their bodies (1 Corinthians 6:19-20) so drinking alcohol is sinful behavior.

1 Corinthians 3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy;
for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Christians have no right to abuse their body by ingesting alcohol.
Those that don't take their relationship with the Lord seriously
would be the ones drinking booze while claiming to be Christians.



Medical STUDY - No Safe Level of Alcohol
Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle Washington

Paris (AFP) - Even an occasional glass of wine or beer increases the risk of health problems and dying, according to a major study on drinking in 195 nations that attributes 2.8 million premature deaths worldwide each year to booze.

"There is no safe level of alcohol," said Max Griswold, a researcher at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle, Washington and lead author for a consortium of more than 500 experts.

Despite recent research showing that light-to-moderate drinking reduces heart disease, the new study found that alcohol use is more likely than not to do harm.

"The protective effect of alcohol was offset by the risks," Griswold told AFP in summarising the results, published in medical journal The Lancet on Friday.

"Overall, the health risks associated with alcohol rose in line with the amount consumed each day."

Compared to abstinence, imbibing one "standard drink" -- 10 grammes of alcohol, equivalent to a small beer, glass of wine or shot of spirits -- per day, for example, ups the odds of developing at least one of two dozen health problems by about half-a-percent, the researchers reported.

Looked at one way, that seems like a small increment: 914 out of 100,000 teetotallers will encounter those problems, compared to 918 people who imbibe seven times per week.

"But at the global level, that additional risk of 0.5 percent among (once-a-day) drinkers corresponds to about 100,000 additional deaths each year," said senior author Emmanuela Gakidou, a professor at the University of Washington and a director at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

- 'Less is better, none is best' -

"Those are excess deaths, in other words, that could be avoided," she told AFP.

The risk climbs in a steep "J-curve", the study found.

An average of two drinks per day, for example, translated into a 7.0 percent hike in disease and injury compared to those who opt for abstinence.

With five "units" of alcohol per day, the likelihood of serious consequences jumps by 37 percent.

The "less is better, none is best" finding jibes with the World Health Organization's long-standing position, but is at odds with many national guidelines, especially in the developed world.

Britain's health authority, for example, suggests not exceeding 14 drinks per week "to keep health risks from alcohol to a low level".

"There is always a lag between the publication of new evidence and the modification and adoption of revised guidelines," said Gakidou, who admitted to being an "occasional drinker" herself.

"The evidence shows what the evidence shows, and I -- like 2.4 billion other people on the planet that also consume alcohol -- need to take it seriously."

Overall, drinking was the seventh leading risk factor for premature death and disease in 2016, accounting for just over two percent of deaths in women and nearly seven percent in men.

The top six killers are high blood pressure, smoking, low-birth weight and premature delivery, high blood sugar (diabetes), obesity and pollution.

But in the 15-49 age bracket, alcohol emerged as the most lethal factor, responsible for more than 12 percent of deaths among men, the study found.

- The 95 percent club -

The main causes of alcohol-related deaths in this age group were tuberculosis, road injuries and "self-harm", mainly suicide.

King's College London professor Robyn Burton, who did not take part in the study, described it as "the most comprehensive estimate of the global burden of alcohol use to date."

The examination of impacts drew from more than 600 earlier studies, while a country-by-country tally of prevalence -- the percentage of men and women who drink, and how much they consume -- drew from another 700.

Both were grounded in new methods that compensated for the shortcomings of earlier efforts.

Among men, drinking alcohol in 2016 was most widespread in Denmark (97 percent), along with Norway, Argentina, Germany, and Poland (94 percent).

In Asia, South Korean men took the lead, with 91 percent hitting the bottle at least once in a while.

Among women, Danes also ranked first (95 percent), followed by Norway (91 percent), Germany and Argentina (90 percent), and New Zealand (89 percent).

The biggest drinkers, however, were found elsewhere.

Men in Romania who partake knocked back a top-scoring eight drinks a day on average, with Portugal, Luxembourg, Lithuania and Ukraine just behind at seven "units" per day.

Ukranian women who drink were in a league of their own, putting away more than four glasses or shots every 24 hours, followed by Andorra, Luxembourg, Belarus, Sweden, Denmark, Ireland and Britain, all averaging about three per day.

Source - https://www.yahoo.com/news/zero-tolerance-no-safe-level-alcohol-study-says-224245668.html

The CDC told us that we had to get the Covid shot too, and wear a mask for our protection. This was false!

Since when do we believe more in man than in God, who tells us it is good. (?)
 
Contrary to popular belief, the Bible speaks in favor of and positively of ingesting alcohol in a number of places.

Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go ahead and enjoy your meals as you eat. Drink your wine
with a joyful attitude, because God already has approved your actions.


Psalm 104:14-15 “You make grass grow for cattle and make vegetables for humans to use in order to get food from the
ground. You make wine to cheer human hearts, olive oil to make faces shine, and bread to strengthen human hearts.”


1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water only, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent illnesses.

Proverbs 31:6-7 Let beer be for those who are perishing, wine for those who are in
anguish! Let them drink and forget their poverty and remember their misery no more.


Although sobriety is definitely recommended and preferred. Some may prefer not to drink.
Others do not have the same strictures. Not everyone who drinks does so wantonly.


The Bible does not prohibit the consumption of alcohol. It does speak against drunkenness.
i just posted a reply similar to you focusing on Proverbs 31:6 & 7. if a person drinks alcohol & is responsible, reliable, accountable & respectable, always knowing when to stop, i don't see any issue with it. i don nor promote alcohol. i, myself, quit back in the summer because i received a calling fro the Holy Spirit. a detailed posting of the truth Magenta.
 
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According to some, that's enough to send you to hell for an eternity.

Those "some" being they who do not accept the full counsel of God...

Yes, I believe in God rather than in men who don’t understand what they are reading….
 
By that “logic”, putting on a sweater when you’re cold is “fleshly comfort”.

In other words, you don’t have a sound argument here.

I do not understand what you are saying.

If the Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol to comfort you.

You can try to justify drinking all you want but it does not make sense.

If you like to drink alcohol that is fine but do not try to justify it.

The Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol which is a physical pleasure.

Are you saying your physical comfort is better than the Spirit comforting you.

For what purpose is drinking alcohol if you can have the comfort of the Holy Spirit, and peace that passes all understanding, and joy that no person can take away from you, and a sound mind.

And you are going to say that alcohol is better than what the Spirit can give you.

What is the purpose of alcohol when the Spirit gives us greater than that.
 
Interesting I was unaware it was in so many different foods
alcohol its in yogurt to, more so in kefir yogurt, which I absolutely love and have as a salad dressing to on almost every meal, a long with a yogurt health drink for breakfast, acd apple cider vinegar has alcohol I have three times a day, it's rich in good bacteria to just like the probiotics found in yogurt it contains alcohol.m too.

You can use alcohol like ale to cook a nice beef steak in, or you can make nice sauce with wine.

Yep its in a lot of stuff you would be surprised really.
 
I do not understand what you are saying.

If the Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol to comfort you.

You can try to justify drinking all you want but it does not make sense.

If you like to drink alcohol that is fine but do not try to justify it.

The Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol which is a physical pleasure.

Are you saying your physical comfort is better than the Spirit comforting you.

For what purpose is drinking alcohol if you can have the comfort of the Holy Spirit, and peace that passes all understanding, and joy that no person can take away from you, and a sound mind.

And you are going to say that alcohol is better than what the Spirit can give you.

What is the purpose of alcohol when the Spirit gives us greater than that.

On the flip side, by your reasoning, why do we need to eat, since Jesus is our comforter?? Both eating and drinking is not the kingdom of heaven.

-"for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit."
Romans 14:17 NKJV
 
By that “logic”, putting on a sweater when you’re cold is “fleshly comfort”.

In other words, you don’t have a sound argument here.

In other words... you're in favor of drinking the booze and will always argue against not drinking the booze.

@tablet123 actually has a great point.... why would anyone who is having fellowship with the Lord thru the Holy Spirit need to get buzzed the devil's nectar or smoke the devil's lettuce?

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

Ingesting things that are damaging to the body is unclean and is not acceptable unto the Lord.

Of course it's the OSAS crowd that enjoys that which is unclean since they believe they can live in sin and still be saved. They are sadly mistaken as they will be finding out.


Your saying I cannot prove Paul told Timothy to take a little wine?

I'm saying you cannot prove Paul told Timothy to drink fermented wine.

Feels free to speculate all you'd like along with the rest of the speculators... wine just means fruit of the vine and that word does not differentiate between fermented wine or none fermented wine which we call grape juice today.

If you are going to participate, you got try to pay attention man! thumbsup2.gif



Only in the last couple of centuries there was a prohibition on drinking— and this goes against Scripture!

Well then by all means... get your booze on man!

Maybe smoke of of the devil's lettuce too... it's an herb that grows naturally so toke up.





The scripture never commands us to drink alcohol to please God.

Well, the "god" that some "christians" are following actually tells them to drink the booze, smoke the weed, pop the pills, huff the airplane glue, smoke the crack, shoot the heroin, etc, etc.

This is why we see them advocating so hard for intoxicants because... they enjoy being intoxicated.



Interesting I was unaware it was in so many different foods

Fake news, polyester man argument.... it's not the same as booze.

If it were one could eat too much of some of these items and get thrown in jail for drinking driving on the way home from the restaurant or sinner party... oops, I mean dinner party smile-grin10.gif



it's in bread too

How many slices does it take to get drink?? laughing4.gif



It tells us that we should drink a little wine for our health!

But the part you left out is.... nowhere does God's Word say to drink a little ALCOHOLIC wine... that the alcoholics drink



Since when do we believe more in man than in God, who tells us it is good.

God doesn't tell anybody to drink the booze as I've already pointed out.

But sounds like you enjoy the booze... so by all means, drink up!
 
That of course is in error
The word of God is never in error.

not accepting other scriptures that warn against coveting but that's par for course with the OSAS crowd where everything is all about what they desire and not what the Lord desires.
Fallacy: false association.

It's a proven fact now that ANY amount of alcohol is bad for the body
All science is subject to review. There are other "proven facts" have been proven false.

so the booze advocates will continue to drink up while those that honor the Lord
Fallacy: false dichotomy.

Now the same has happened with drinking alcohol and now we see who the fake "christians" are as they advocate for drinking booze with no regard to the leading of the Holy Spirit
Again, false dichotomy.

But true to form, those advocating drunkenness will continue advocating for alcoholic drink
Again, false association.

The word "wine" just means fruit of the vine so there's no biblical mandate to use fermented fruit of the vine.
Actually, there is, and I have quoted it.

This is why most churches use grape juice.
"Most"? Have you personally attended "most" churches? I guarantee you haven't. Most churches that do use unfermented juice do so out of respect for their members who have struggled with alcohol addiction in the past.
 
By that “logic”, putting on a sweater when you’re cold is
“fleshly comfort”.
In other words, you don’t have a sound argument here.

In other words... you're in favor of drinking the booze and will always argue against not drinking the booze.


@tablet123 actually has a great point.... why would anyone who is having fellowship with the Lord thru the Holy Spirit need to get buzzed the devil's nectar or smoke the devil's lettuce?

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing;
and I will receive you

Ingesting things that are damaging to the body is unclean and is not acceptable unto the Lord.

Of course it's the OSAS crowd that enjoys that which is unclean since they believe they can live in sin and still be
saved. They are sadly mistaken as they will be finding out.



Your saying I cannot prove Paul told Timothy to take a little

wine?

I'm saying you cannot prove Paul told Timothy to drink fermented wine.

Feels free to speculate all you'd like along with the rest of the speculators... wine just means fruit of the vine and
that word does not differentiate between fermented wine or none fermented wine which we call grape juice
today.

If you are going to participate, you got try to pay attention man! 280204




Only in the last couple of centuries there was a
prohibition on drinking— and this goes against Scripture!

Well then by all means... get your booze on man!

Maybe smoke of of the devil's lettuce too... it's an herb that grows naturally so toke up.




The scripture never commands us to drink alcohol to
please God.

Well, the "god" that some "christians" are following actually tells them to drink the booze, smoke the weed, pop
the pills, huff the airplane glue, smoke the crack, shoot the heroin, etc, etc.

This is why we see them advocating so hard for intoxicants because... they enjoy being intoxicated.



Interesting I was unaware it was in so many different foods
Fake news, polyester man argument.... it's not the same as booze.

If it were one could eat too much of some of these items and get thrown in jail for drinking driving on the way
home from the restaurant or sinner party... oops, I mean dinner party 280205




it's in bread too

How many slices does it take to get drunk?? laughing4.gif



It tells us that we should drink a little wine for our
health!

But the part you left out is.... nowhere does God's Word say to drink a little ALCOHOLIC wine... that the
alcoholics drink



Since when do we believe more in man than in God,
who tells us it is good.

God doesn't tell anybody to drink the booze as I've already pointed out.

But sounds like you enjoy the booze... so by all means, drink up!
 
I do not understand what you are saying.

If the Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol to comfort you.
I'm using your "logic" to defeat your argument. If the Spirit is our Comforter, then you should not need a sweater when you're cold because you "should" not be attending to your fleshly comfort.

You can try to justify drinking all you want but it does not make sense.
To you. You are welcome to abstain, but you cannot prove that all God's people are required to abstain.

If you like to drink alcohol that is fine but do not try to justify it.
If you don't like to drink alcohol that's fine, but don't try to prove it's sinful.

The Spirit is our Comforter why would you need alcohol which is a physical pleasure.
I already responded to this, so I'm not sure why you think repetition is needed.

Are you saying your physical comfort is better than the Spirit comforting you.
I say precisely what I mean to say.

And you are going to say that alcohol is better than what the Spirit can give you.
I say what I say and don't say what I don't say.

What is the purpose of alcohol when the Spirit gives us greater than that.
What is the purpose of a sweater if the Spirit gives us greater than that?

If you still don't understand my point, then rational argumentation is beyond you and it's better for you to withdraw. No shame.
 
In other words... you're in favor of drinking the booze and will always argue against not drinking the booze.
And you're in favour of being a jackdonkey and will always argue against not being a jackdonkey.

It goes both ways. If you decide you prefer to treat others with disrespect, you will be treated with an equal measure of disrespect. Again, if respectful dialogue is beyond you, you're in the wrong place.
 
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alcohol its in yogurt to, more so in kefir yogurt, which I absolutely love and have as a salad dressing to on almost every meal, a long with a yogurt health drink for breakfast, acd apple cider vinegar has alcohol I have three times a day, it's rich in good bacteria to just like the probiotics found in yogurt it contains alcohol.m too.

You can use alcohol like ale to cook a nice beef steak in, or you can make nice sauce with wine.

Yep its in a lot of stuff you would be surprised really.
Wow that is insane I had no idea that is really interesting
 
In other words... you're in favor of drinking the booze and will always argue against not drinking the booze.

@tablet123 actually has a great point.... why would anyone who is having fellowship with the Lord thru the Holy Spirit need to get buzzed the devil's nectar or smoke the devil's lettuce?

2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

Ingesting things that are damaging to the body is unclean and is not acceptable unto the Lord.

Of course it's the OSAS crowd that enjoys that which is unclean since they believe they can live in sin and still be saved. They are sadly mistaken as they will be finding out.




I'm saying you cannot prove Paul told Timothy to drink fermented wine.

Feels free to speculate all you'd like along with the rest of the speculators... wine just means fruit of the vine and that word does not differentiate between fermented wine or none fermented wine which we call grape juice today.

If you are going to participate, you got try to pay attention man! View attachment 280204





Well then by all means... get your booze on man!

Maybe smoke of of the devil's lettuce too... it's an herb that grows naturally so toke up.







Well, the "god" that some "christians" are following actually tells them to drink the booze, smoke the weed, pop the pills, huff the airplane glue, smoke the crack, shoot the heroin, etc, etc.

This is why we see them advocating so hard for intoxicants because... they enjoy being intoxicated.





Fake news, polyester man argument.... it's not the same as booze.

If it were one could eat too much of some of these items and get thrown in jail for drinking driving on the way home from the restaurant or sinner party... oops, I mean dinner party View attachment 280205





How many slices does it take to get drink?? View attachment 280206





But the part you left out is.... nowhere does God's Word say to drink a little ALCOHOLIC wine... that the alcoholics drink





God doesn't tell anybody to drink the booze as I've already pointed out.

But sounds like you enjoy the booze... so by all means, drink up!
Well the thing is I proved scripture for my stance you however only have your opinion, You can try to make scripture say something it isn't but the fact is it says what it says and you have no way to refute it biblically
 
Traditions of the last 200 yrs of human history is everything to some Christians. Some would rather follow men than read Scripture, and some twist the Scripture into something that’s obviously not there…. You are adding to His word!!
Rev. 22:18-19

They wouldn’t know Truth if it slapped them in the face; rather, they ignore Truth….
I listen to God not traditions of men.
 
Yeah, lots of people love their booze and their weed so m much.... they are willing to go to hell over it.

That's too bad for them.

Enough people have already posted the evidence that alcohol is not forbidden so I will skip that.

Does enjoyment equal love in your definition? If someone enjoys an occasional drink, are they going to hell? What amount sends them straight to hell? Just wondering.
 
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