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I'm sensing quite a lot of hostility from some of the members here. I have not been hateful, I have only been asking good and honest questions, and so far they haven't been answered logically. I will try to reply to as much as I can, but I am on mobile and cannot write very fast or add extra quotes in my posts.
There is a difference between feeling compassion and displaying it in an act that may inconvenience yourself for the benefit of another, Simona. And you haven't answered my first question, but based on the posts of others it seems that you still go to hell even if you're a good person but are a non-believer. You must be missing a few morals of your own to not have a problem with this.
There is a huge difference between a higher intelligence and THE highest intelligence, which I understand is what God has.
So the rape part is untrue, but the slavery, murder of children and flogging are all true. If God has done this, then - no matter how much you sugar coat it - he has done something evil. Unless you think that all these terrible things aren't evil, in which case I must repeat you have a serious moral deficiency.
Regarding the 'gender' of God, this another problem I have. Everyone tells me something different. All the different explainations I've heard can't be true. So what's the cause of it? The Bible and it's teachings are cryptic. Everyone has their own interpretations.
And I'm quite aware that wasn't flattery, I was being sarcastic. You still haven't answered my question about miracles. Is it a highly unlikely event caused by God, or an impossible event caused by God?
If God is infinitely powerful and has organized everything to be the way they are, why did he ever plan for Lucifer to rebell? Why did he plan for such a vile place to be created? God CHOSE to create hell, because he is responsible for everything.
I assume you know that God helped the writers of the Bible because it says so in the Bible, correct? You are using the Bible to prove the legitimacy of the Bible. That is circular logic, any rational mind can see that it makes no sense.
We are called by God to become ontologically good persons, to renew our own being (feeling compassion is normal, is nothing extraordinary about it, we are humans, not beast, but we are asked to be more than that; God embraced the human nature (trough incarnation) so that we, in return, can become Godlike (by allowing Jesus Christ in our hearts). You don`t 'buy' Heaven with good works; we don`t make business with God.
Interesting that in your previous response you find believing in God 'irrational', but you don`t find irrational believing in a higher intelligence (which is like believing in God)... am I missing something?
Why do I keep on hearing this lie about God condoning rape?
Anyway, God punishes so that people weak up from their sleep of ignorance and so they change their ways.
I am not the best person to guide you to understand the OT. Maybe someone else will explain you. Sorry.
There are no pictural representations of God the Father (at least, not in my church); the only icon that revolutionaried the byzantin tradition was that of the Saint Trinity (painted by the russian monk Andrei Rubliov) which is represented by three young men (the Saint Trinity under the image of three angels) that came in the house of Abraham. The church had to make a reunion in order to decide whether such representation of God is permitted or not. If God sais about himself "I am that I am" or "I am the alpha and the omega" etc., than how could you possibly represent that? This is why God forbidden people to make idols from the sky (like stars, moon) or from below, because people have no idea what God is.
People weren`t that hysterical (and also weren`t familiar with the political correctness) back then and weren`t insulted by words like "father" or "he" in order to refer to God. And I am not talking only about the jews, but I am talking about the common archaical religious man that had much more important things to do than a profane modern man who moves in a pointless, industrialised society and asks insolently God "why are you who you are and not who I want you to be?".
I said it as a challenge, not as a flattery. Life is a miracle. Think about that.
The man, from the most ancient times, knew that this earthly life is only shadow and dream and was struggling to place himself into the real life, the ultimate reality (which the profane man fails to aknowledge and it should be no wonder for anyone, that the profane man will get exactly what he is getting himself into: the hell of non-sense, chaos and frustration). In christianity, Hell is a consequence of Lucifer`s rebellion aganist God. People create their own prisons when they refuse to open their eyes and hearts to God (the truth).
Well, that`s the point; there is no other sacred book that talks about the relation between God and people.
Also, the authors of the Bible may not have been perfect, like you say, but they have been inspired by the Holy Spirit; they write about things that God revealed to them (truths that they could have never penetrate with their carnal minds if it wasn`t God that spoke to them and through them).
Interesting that in your previous response you find believing in God 'irrational', but you don`t find irrational believing in a higher intelligence (which is like believing in God)... am I missing something?
Why do I keep on hearing this lie about God condoning rape?
Anyway, God punishes so that people weak up from their sleep of ignorance and so they change their ways.
I am not the best person to guide you to understand the OT. Maybe someone else will explain you. Sorry.
There are no pictural representations of God the Father (at least, not in my church); the only icon that revolutionaried the byzantin tradition was that of the Saint Trinity (painted by the russian monk Andrei Rubliov) which is represented by three young men (the Saint Trinity under the image of three angels) that came in the house of Abraham. The church had to make a reunion in order to decide whether such representation of God is permitted or not. If God sais about himself "I am that I am" or "I am the alpha and the omega" etc., than how could you possibly represent that? This is why God forbidden people to make idols from the sky (like stars, moon) or from below, because people have no idea what God is.
People weren`t that hysterical (and also weren`t familiar with the political correctness) back then and weren`t insulted by words like "father" or "he" in order to refer to God. And I am not talking only about the jews, but I am talking about the common archaical religious man that had much more important things to do than a profane modern man who moves in a pointless, industrialised society and asks insolently God "why are you who you are and not who I want you to be?".
I said it as a challenge, not as a flattery. Life is a miracle. Think about that.
The man, from the most ancient times, knew that this earthly life is only shadow and dream and was struggling to place himself into the real life, the ultimate reality (which the profane man fails to aknowledge and it should be no wonder for anyone, that the profane man will get exactly what he is getting himself into: the hell of non-sense, chaos and frustration). In christianity, Hell is a consequence of Lucifer`s rebellion aganist God. People create their own prisons when they refuse to open their eyes and hearts to God (the truth).
Well, that`s the point; there is no other sacred book that talks about the relation between God and people.
Also, the authors of the Bible may not have been perfect, like you say, but they have been inspired by the Holy Spirit; they write about things that God revealed to them (truths that they could have never penetrate with their carnal minds if it wasn`t God that spoke to them and through them).
There is a huge difference between a higher intelligence and THE highest intelligence, which I understand is what God has.
So the rape part is untrue, but the slavery, murder of children and flogging are all true. If God has done this, then - no matter how much you sugar coat it - he has done something evil. Unless you think that all these terrible things aren't evil, in which case I must repeat you have a serious moral deficiency.
Regarding the 'gender' of God, this another problem I have. Everyone tells me something different. All the different explainations I've heard can't be true. So what's the cause of it? The Bible and it's teachings are cryptic. Everyone has their own interpretations.
And I'm quite aware that wasn't flattery, I was being sarcastic. You still haven't answered my question about miracles. Is it a highly unlikely event caused by God, or an impossible event caused by God?
If God is infinitely powerful and has organized everything to be the way they are, why did he ever plan for Lucifer to rebell? Why did he plan for such a vile place to be created? God CHOSE to create hell, because he is responsible for everything.
I assume you know that God helped the writers of the Bible because it says so in the Bible, correct? You are using the Bible to prove the legitimacy of the Bible. That is circular logic, any rational mind can see that it makes no sense.