A BIBLICAL EXAMINATION OF CALVINISM

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BaptistBibleBeliever said:
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That's not really a proper response. Are you always this obstinate concerning what you wish to learn about Soteriology text and Apologetics?
We're to hold each other up and help each other to expand our understanding. Not seek out emoticons so as to laugh or attempt at insult those who pursue that Godly directive. Guess what? You don't know it all! Guess what? Neither do I. However, I do know more than you do about the issues addressed thus far. Learn from that and respect the suggestion you do your own research so as to glean your own knowledge and understanding.
Because what you don't know, if you insist on pursuing that in the vein it is actual truth in Apologetic studies, will have you corrected in your ignorance again and again if you seek to assume your stance with others. Especially face to face. People who respect Apologetics don't just blindly nod their heads when someone asserts a falsehood concerning a particular subject.
Good luck.
How do you believe the Bible when you don't know what its writings intend to teach? Jesus taught in parables. How far would you have gotten as a disciple were you to be this obstinate all those centuries ago? The question is valid because you're this obstinate when discussing the teachings of God and the Epistles of Paul now.


Good luck. I'll not waste my time further. You refuse to learn what you clearly don't know and from people who do.
 
BaptistBibleBeliever said:
This is true, but whenever I am dealing with a doctrinal issue of the church age, I turn to Paul.

There is a time to quote the Saviour, but this is not one of them. Jesus was a minister of circumcision, Paul is the Apostle to the Gentiles.
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WOW!
That would make you a Pauline following Paulianity since you discriminate between Jesus ministry and Paul's.
That's sad.

For others who are interested in learning what is meant by the term, Church Age, since personal knowledge can be met with scorn at times here, consider this article.
Article by Robert Driskell
Robert Driskell received a Bachelor of Arts degree in both Pastoral Ministries and Biblical Studies from Mid-America Christian University in 1995.
Read more: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-church-age/#ixzz5VTYFmgmc

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Whatever else may be said, we know that
whenever the church exists, it must be the ‘church age’.


Conclusion
Whatever else may be said, we know that whenever the church exists, it must be the ‘church age’. Every person who repents of his or her sin, and turns to Jesus in faith, becomes part of the church. The church is a ‘called out’ group of people who love and serve God, who have been forgiven of their sins and graciously granted eternal life. This group seeks to serve, love, glorify, and honor God out of gratitude for all He has done for them.

This group of forgiven sinners is also called the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:27; Ephesians 4:12; Colossians 1:18, 24). This means that we are His representatives here on earth. We share His love, speak His Words, and help those as He would if He were here physically. He is the Head of the Church (Ephesians 4:15, 23; Colossians 1:18; 2:19) to whom we are accountable and Who strengthens us to live as He wants us to live. We are the church that exists in the ‘church age’…and forevermore.


Excerpted from: https://www.whatchristianswanttoknow.com/what-is-the-church-age/#ixzz5VTZRDcGd
 
Lillywolf said:
WOW!
That would make you a Pauline following Paulianity since you discriminate between Jesus ministry and Paul's.
That's sad.
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Just so we are clear, you are content to just make this stuff as you go along and disregard the simple statements of Paul at every turn?

I am a literalist, and I will take whatever is written in the pages of Scripture at full face value. I don't need any help from German rationalism or their influence on the so-called biblical scholars. The English is quite good enough for me.
 
BaptistBibleBeliever said:
Just so we are clear, you are content to just make this stuff as you go along and disregard the simple statements of Paul at every turn?

I am a literalist, and I will take whatever is written in the pages of Scripture at full face value. I don't need any help from German rationalism or their influence on the so-called biblical scholars. The English is quite good enough for me.
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seems I can care less if Lillywolf ignored me or not
 
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BaptistBibleBeliever said:
Just so we are clear, you are content to just make this stuff as you go along and disregard the simple statements of Paul at every turn?

I am a literalist, and I will take whatever is written in the pages of Scripture at full face value. I don't need any help from German rationalism or their influence on the so-called biblical scholars. The English is quite good enough for me.
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You're a literalist.
How heavy is it? "Then Jesus said His to disciples, "If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. "Matthew 16:24
What kind of wood is it made of? Is it true to the literal size of the cross set into Golgotha's ground?

Your phraseology, "German rationalism", is telling. As is the attempt to slight those who are learned in the field. "...so called biblical scholars." And, your remark, The English is quite good enough for me, says quite a lot too. You appear to hold to Sectarian values as a Segregationist and Doctrinaire.

The English isn't quite good enough to understand the ancient texts. Why? Because they were not written in English originally. And translation loses a lot in the import of the word. Though as most of us know, the Autographs of the scriptures are long since out of our reach. I do like to think they still exist somewhere though. Perhaps that is a waste of hope but it is still my own.
When you claim to be a Literalist it is no wonder you don't understand Paul's writing style nor Jesus' parables.

Best of luck.
 
BaptistBibleBeliever said:
You are better off . . .
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an underappreciated bible verse from the book of grace (galatians)

Gal 1:10 - am I a people pleaser, or am I a pleaser of God, if I am a people pleaser, then I am not a servant of God

well, that's from memory, and I think I butchered the verse, but close enough
 
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someone have just entered the kingdom of "ignore list" a few minutes ago
 
theanointedsinner said:
seems I can care less if Lillywolf ignored me or not
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Pardon me for my curiosity. How is it you said this in reply to that member? When you were not part of that discussion at all. Just throw it out there for what purpose?
If you could care less, just as a point of note, you would not say you could care less. The meaning of the phrase, I could care less, means the level of caring is nil. That is, none. While stating you could care less shows just the opposite.
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Must be a tag team.
 
You know, I'd love to be friends with everyone on this site. I'd love to share a common interest . . . this ministry. But it is impossible to befriend another person unless I see that we are walking together in a like biblical faith and agree in our convictions.

Paul's classic summation of this issue is not open to negotiation, reinterpretation, redefining terms . . . it is just to be accepted as God laid it upon his heart to write.

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty" (II Corinthians 6:14-18).
 
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Oh Lord, thou art deceive me (Jer 20:7)

why remindeth me of thy wolf?

oh wait, tell Satan, he can have the wolf and to leave us alone.
 
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