7 Year Time line

[BOY]

This does not make any sense. The antichrist is slaughtering everybody in the 4th seal with death by the enforcement of the mark.
The middle of the tribulation (Marked by Daniel and the Olivet discourse) is a warning of the antichrist‘s abomination of desolations in the Jewish temple (which would naturally follow with the enforcement of the mark). The 6th seal lines up with the signs of the Day of the Lord (skies going dark, etc.). The 6th seal is God’s reply to the 5th seal in the saints crying out for justice (For having just been killed by the antichrist). Refer to my end times chronology.

https://www.christianforums.com/threads/my-new-end-times-chronology.8109642/


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The 4th seal is wars. 25% of the people will be killed. by death, Famine beasts of the Earth, Disease and pestilence, I suppose.
Nothing to do with the Antichrist. This is the beginning of sorrow. before the 42 months where the beast has full control.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

The 4th seal doesn't say that 1/4th of people will be killed; it says there will be violence, famine and death by wild animals and whatever in 1/4 of the earth.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. Revelation 6:8​

 

[BOY]

The 4th seal doesn't say that 1/4th of people will be killed; it says there will be violence, famine and death by wild animals and whatever in 1/4 of the earth.

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. Revelation 6:8​

And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

That's 25% of the earth. And the people that live on it. will be Killed

and I don't think it's wild animals. I think it's beasts of the Earth. Maybe some small, tiny beast like Micro Beasts. illnesses, sicknesses. I can't imagine millions of people being eaten by wild animals.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

That's 25% of the earth. And the people that live on it. will be Killed

Some, but certainly not all. That's just reading apocalyptic fear porn into it

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

The 4th seal is wars. 25% of the people will be killed. by death, Famine beasts of the Earth, Disease and pestilence, I suppose.
Nothing to do with the Antichrist. This is the beginning of sorrow. before the 42 months where the beast has full control.

Actually, the first two seals would be wars. The first seal is the reveal of the antichrist conquering.

First seal: Rider on a white horse conquering:

Revelation 6:1-2

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"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."​

The Second Seal: War with peace taken from the earth:

Revelation 6:3-4

"And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."​

The fourth seal: Death upon a fourth part of the Earth:

Revelation 6:7-8

"And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."​

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So "death" and "hell that followed him" (demonic forces) will be given the power to take life over a fourth part of the Earth. Meaning, one-fourth of the people on our planet will be killed. They will be killed with the sword (our modern-day weapons), with hunger (because you cannot buy or sell without the mark), and with death, and with the beasts of the earth (which could be animals trained to kill in the military, or it could simply be a reference to demonically possessed leaders in the antichrist's regime).



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[Bible_Highlighter]

Some, but certainly not all. That's just reading apocalyptic fear porn into it

2 billion out of 8 billion people on the planet is a lot of people being killed.
It's not fear-mongering but a reality to come according to Scripture.
People need to repent and turn to Jesus Christ to escape such dark times.



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[GaryA]

I think the point that @ChristRoseFromTheDead was making was that 'fourth part' was referring to regional land area rather than population.

 

[BOY]

Actually, the first two seals would be wars. The first seal is the reveal of the antichrist conquering.

First seal: Rider on a white horse conquering:

Revelation 6:1-2

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"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."​

The Second Seal: War with peace taken from the earth:





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Daniel 11:21
“And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”

And from then he will go forth conquering.

Another thing Jesus said there should be wars and rumors of wars. that could be a big war first before he comes to power and then he comes in peaceably and obtains the kingdom's by flatteries.
Then more wars after that.

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Daniel 11:21
“And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.”

And from then he will go forth conquering.

Another thing Jesus said there should be wars and rumors of wars. that could be a big war first before he comes to power and then he comes in peaceably and obtains the kingdom's by flatteries.
Then more wars after that.

I would agree. What you said here is not in conflict with what I stated.


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[douggg]

2 billion out of 8 billion people on the planet is a lot of people being killed.
It's not fear-mongering but a reality to come according to Scripture.
People need to repent and turn to Jesus Christ to escape such dark times.
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We also have to keep in mind that if the length of the great tribulation in not limited then no flesh on earth will survive.

Matthew 24:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

I think the point that @ChristRoseFromTheDead was making was that 'fourth part' was referring to regional land area rather than population.

Yes, but what I actually think is that the 4th seal describes one aspect of God's plan for mankind until the finale. In other words, from the time when Christ opened the 4th seal, after he ascended to the throne of God and received dominion and a kingdom, until the final 3 or so years of the age of man, death will reign over a 4th part of the earth, whatever that means spiritually

 

[Bible_Highlighter]

Yes, but what I actually think is that the 4th seal describes one aspect of God's plan for mankind until the finale. In other words, from the time when Christ opened the 4th seal, after he ascended to the throne of God and received dominion and a kingdom, until the final 3 or so years of the age of man, death will reign over a 4th part of the earth, whatever that means spiritually

Completeness of Judgment:

• In judgment contexts, four often symbolizes completeness in God's dealings with humanity:
  • Four horsemen: Revelation 6 depicts the four horsemen as agents of divine judgment over the earth.
  • Four severe judgments: Ezekiel 14:21 mentions four catastrophic judgments: the sword, famine, wild beasts, and pestilence—paralleling Revelation 6:8.

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[douggg]

 

[douggg]

(see my chart in post #53) This is what will happen between the transgression of desolation act (ToD) and the abomination of desolation setup on the temple mount (the AoD).