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Anyways, were you agreeing with my comment or not?
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...we do it for brevity.
Anyways, were you agreeing with my comment or not?
Well.....maybe there is hope for you yet. Because it is IMPOSSIBLE for Christians to doubt the final redemption of Israel. Because there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of passages describing the "day of the Lord", "that day", "in that day", which speak to the SC, the great tribulation (the time of Jacob's trouble) prophesied UPON ISRAEL. And the RESULT of the GT is the final full complete once and for all REDEMPTION of Israel to God and to His land Israel and His city Jerusalem. And peace on the earth and many other wonderful things.
And seeing that Israel the Nation is NOT yet redeemed, and there is NOT peace on the earth, it must be future. Not to mention the huge quantity of Scripture that points to TODAY as that time where the DOTL is at the very door.
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
Hos 5:15
I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.
Hos 6:1
Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up.
Hos 6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.
This is the verse that I think about when I consider the redemption of Israel. They remain desolate until this occurrence.
And certainly there are similarities between what is yet to come and what is historical because the spirits behind the occurrences is the same.
I do have issues with Christians saying we should support Israel the country. I believe their time is not yet and will not be until the fullness of the Gentiles. Therefore, we should probably pray for the Arabs who are under the demon of Islam. It doesn't get much US news coverage but the walls of Islam are crumbling and many muslims are renouncing Allah and believing in Jesus at the threat of their own lives. They are saying things like "We are Iranian!" not "We are muslims" in defiance of the Ayatollah and his cronies.
Anyway, just wanted to drop in here and say this. Peace.
Interesting thoughts and thank you for your input.
Just look at "in that day" in Zechariah alone. Is devastatingly overwhelming.....
We will not see/read the Scriptures the same... 35 years ago i would have agreed with you . Spent 40 years as a dispensational . You believe the human blood if it is Jewish is a blood of salvation. I dont. Sorry you went to big bold font. Only the Blood of Christ is of salvation. What if a person is half Jewish?
Dont bother to reply ,for/to me, i wont take your post to "Note pad " again to make is better on my eyes .
Do we really know WHAT is really happening in the middle East? Or any nations that be for that matter?
It is far more advanced that we are aware! When you see the fig tree putting forth......as Jesus warned us, be not deceived !
What do we have @ hand?
Corrupt governments in all countries. Genocide of nations, murder of innocents approved by the turning of a blind eye, military force @ rule, no true freedom for believers not discounting the disasters of nature!
Yet the end has not come until all is in place & God ALLOWS it to proceed........
He will have a tried & proven peoples, not the lukewarm, pretenders, nor those who give over & bow to the seat of Satan!!!!!!
It is far more advanced that we are aware! When you see the fig tree putting forth......as Jesus warned us, be not deceived !
What do we have @ hand?
Corrupt governments in all countries. Genocide of nations, murder of innocents approved by the turning of a blind eye, military force @ rule, no true freedom for believers not discounting the disasters of nature!
Yet the end has not come until all is in place & God ALLOWS it to proceed........
He will have a tried & proven peoples, not the lukewarm, pretenders, nor those who give over & bow to the seat of Satan!!!!!!
Amen, The blood of Christ is salvation.
Most dispensationalists believe this.. Israel does nto return to the law for salvation in the 7 year trib.. that is a few select far away thinkers of a whole group
There is something known as "the church age" and "the body of Christ", "the bride". That is this present age which is soon coming to an end. Then the bride gets raptured and the 70th week of Daniel that is appointed to Israel begins.
BTW.......I am not a dispensationalist. Or any other schizm in particular. And sorry for the bold text. My bad.
Keyword "in that day" for the book of Zechariah. It is impossible for me to comprehend that anyone could misunderstand the implications.
Then do the same for every other OT prophet. And you will get the same answers.
The issue at hand is not salvation. Jews are being saved today. The are of the body of Christ in this Church age. There destiny is heavenly, as the bride of Christ.
And yet, the entire nation will be redeemed in the future. But their destiny is tied to the land and to the earth during the period of the millennium. With Jesus as their King on His earthly throne in Jerusalem.
The Bible clearly tells us this is so and so it will be.
Isaiah 11:11 bro. It can't possibly be more clear than that.
See also Isaiah 27:12-13 and how it matches all relevant NT statements by Jesus.
Again we disagree ... . I dont believe the church age is/was plan "B" seems you do. I dont believe the Jewish leaders rejection of Christ was a surprise to God so He went to plan B. I believe the Church Body Bride are one in the same. He has always had a Church. Please note i believe there are Jewish Christians just as there are Christians of every nation.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
Psa 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
Psa 118:23 This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
Psa 118:24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
God knew He would be rejected .
I respectfully disagree. Paul is speaking about two distinct ages, and he certainly was not a "far away thinker" was he?
Eph 1:21
far above all principality, and authority, and might, and lordship, and every name named, not only in this age, but also in the coming one;
You are greatly mistaken. I do not believe what you have said and never have. Your assumptions about what I think and believe are utterly unfounded and incorrect.
The Church and every single solitary Christian was "predestinated" and "chosen us in him before the foundation of the world".
That my dear, is not plan "B" or an afterthought. On the contrary, it is a plan prepared from eternity past.
Eph 1:3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Eph 1:4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Eph 1:5
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Eph 1:6
To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
He reigns today . Seems you are looking for the same style of King the Jews were hoping for when they missed The King 2000 years ago. The Scriptures tell us plainly what the Kingdom of God is.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Thanks for a pleasant conversation on this topic, and thanks for the 'normal' font.
You cannot simply dismiss this:He reigns today . Seems you are looking for the same style of King the Jews were hoping for when they missed The King 2000 years ago. The Scriptures tell us plainly what the Kingdom of God is.
Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
Thanks for a pleasant conversation on this topic, and thanks for the 'normal' font.
KJV Search Results for "in" AND "that" AND "day" (blueletterbible.org)
or this....
Act 3:21
Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
or this....
Luk 13:35
Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
No, but the age to come and redemption of Israel is so baked in the Biblical cake, no legit Christian should commit the folly of denying it.