2 Timothy 3-5 - Thoughts?

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Pilgrimshope

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man continues to not get born new. Actually are born new by God in Son for them as risen to them
many just do not yet see this truth, others see it and can care less over it and use it for self gain, as one day God will reveal these also.God seeks the sincere people, to become new as God sees them from the first day anyone chose sincerely to believe God. These see sincerely thankful, Accepted, forgiven and sealed to see clearly and then Choose to obey without any pride in their way anymore over time not giving up, at least for me anyways
Eph 1:6,7,13 Ezekiel 36:26 Hebrews 7:11-12 thank you Father Psalm 100:4, 103:12
I am not really able to follow what you are saying to agree or disagree brother I’m sorry

But We don’t need to be made new until we become defiled by sin don’t need to be set free from sins dominion until we give away ours to it in service
 

homwardbound

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I am not really able to follow what you are saying to agree or disagree brother I’m sorry

But We don’t need to be made new until we become defiled by sin don’t need to be set free from sins dominion until we give away ours to it in service
I get that as one gets to know fact between under Law and upholding Law as good. Me, I see what Paul talks about in Romans 7
then when it be revealed by God to you, then new begins without pride over it anymore. No more guilt either which under law brings onto people and then kills them. No conscious purged from sin, being under law still. As if the Son never came. As if still in the desert with the first chosen trying to do what no other person can do, but SON THAT DID IT ONCE FOR US ALL TO REST IN
HEBREWS 4
 

Pilgrimshope

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I get that as one gets to know fact between under Law and upholding Law as good. Me, I see what Paul talks about in Romans 7
then when it be revealed by God to you, then new begins without pride over it anymore. No more guilt either which under law brings onto people and then kills them. No conscious purged from sin, being under law still. As if the Son never came. As if still in the desert with the first chosen trying to do what no other person can do, but SON THAT DID IT ONCE FOR US ALL TO REST IN
HEBREWS 4
Yes I think you have the gospel mixed up with Moses law
 

Pilgrimshope

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Thank you we are sheep at least me
Of course yes amen ! me too brother once a lost sheep , now am found

“For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:

who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭2:21-25‬ ‭

“And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.

I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭15:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Praise the lord for the gospel which came to us all and calls us home to him our shepherd

“Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:12‬ ‭

“Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep. I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

….I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:( not of Israel’s fold ) them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.”
‭‭John‬ ‭10:7, 9, 11, 14-16‬ ‭

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: He leadeth me beside the still waters. He restoreth my soul: He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; Thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: Thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: And I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭23:1-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:2-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

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3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
This is what people look like when they reject God.
 

Blade

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Hmm no offense but I got lost reading the post... could be me :) As for the OP yeah sounds like were reading whats going on today. God told us if you want to know the future look at the past. Yet something wonderful is going to happen.. we all know we all believe He is coming amen. Is there not a song that comes to mind "the King is coming.. the king is coming"

"O the King is coming, The King is coming I just heard the trumpets sounding And now His face I see O the King is coming The King is coming Praise God, He's coming for me"
 

Pilgrimshope

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This is what people look like when they reject God.
indeed it’s a direct result of rejecting the truth of God.

“And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭1:28-32‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and so as a result of rejecting the gospel , which if we hear it and believe is what can change our thinking about God and mankind from wrong to right … if we reject tbat there’s nothing else to fix our thinking about God and mankind nothing but Jesus testimony

“This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭3:1-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬