2.Pe.1:9 shows that a Christian may not live a changed life!

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ChosenbyHim

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Also, 2 Peter 1:10 shows that a believer can indeed live a changed life.

Absolutely justbyfaith. A Christian (born again believer) certainly CAN live a changed Life. That is, IF they become a doer of the word and not a hearer only. IF they walk in the Spirit daily so that Christ and His word (the King James Bible) can be formed in them. If we walk after the Spirit and allow the Holy Spirit and the Holy Scripture (King James Bible) to take control of our life, then we will live a changed life. But if we do not become a doer of the word, and we do not walk in the Spirit, but instead choose to walk after the flesh, then we will not live a changed life. And we could even go back to our old life of sin.
 
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The Bible says you are sanctified ONCE for all, there is no graduating to the "next level" in Christ. The modern church has gotten this idea that you are saved...BUT mentality and there are no "BUTS" in the the Gospel. The Gospel is absolute and there is not a trick saying "you didn't confess this sin or that sin. The blood is good enough forever!

How long were the people's sins covered on the day of atonement? One Year! The blood of bulls and goats covered sin for a solid year until they had to sacrifice again, making a remembrance of their sins every year. Well, my question is, how much greater is the blood of Jesus than bulls and goats? If the blood of bulls and goats could cover sin for one year, is not the blood of Jesus better? God had no pleasure in these offering of bulls and goats.

Jesus came to take our sins away, anytime forgiveness is needed then blood had to be shed for the remission of those sins. Now, forgiveness does not come through "confessing" it comes though the blood. We are saved forever because of the blood. If we say we need "more forgiveness" then we are saying Jesus has to shed his blood again. Now, does this make me a lazy Christian? Absolutely not! But, its just the opposite I work "because of" instead of "for". Neither does this mean that sinning is ok, in fact grace teaches us to deny sin!

Hebrews 10-:6
Hebrews 10:10 - 12 "Jesus offered one sacrifice for sins forever and sat down"

Hebrews 10:2 For then would they have not ceased to have been offered? (talking about the sacrifices of animals not being able to take away sin) Because that the worshippers ONCE purged should have had no more conscience of sins. (No more need for another sacrifice as their sins would have been totally forgiven and would never be brought up again) Under the sacrifice of Jesus there is no more blood shed needed for forgiveness, because Jesus SAT DOWN and we are purged once!
 

justbyfaith

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Now, forgiveness does not come through "confessing" it comes though the blood.
It does come through the blood; however the blood is applied when we confess our sins (1 John 1:7-9) unto sanctification and also forgiveness.

So, does that mean we have to worry about whether we might have missed a sin somewhere along the line and we are condemned because we didn't confess it?

I think that confessing our sins has to do with confessing that you were a sinner and that when you confess that you have been a sinner, all the sins that you have committed as a sinner are covered by 1 John 1:9.

After that, it is always good to confess individual sins as the Holy Spirit brings them to your memory.

A scripture that comes to mind is,

Psa 32:6, For this shall every one that is godly pray unto thee in a time when thou mayest be found: surely in the floods of great waters they shall not come nigh unto him.

So, it is good not to take any chances on 1 John 1:9; and it is good to begin confessing the sins of your past now so that by the time you get to the end of your life, hopefully, you will have confessed all of them.

1Jo 1:7, But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jo 1:8, If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
 
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I see what you are saying...But remember Saints are not sinners...Yes, we sin sometimes, and yes we will feel regret for this but it is not by the Holy Spirit telling us about our sins its about Him telling us of our righteousness. Sin is not who we are anymore and sin does not fit in to our new creation. we are not sinners we are the righteousness of God in Christ Jesus, complete, accepted, perfect and holy. When you begin to believe that truth you will walk out that holiness and completeness effortlessly.

Again, Im not trying to push buttons or make people mad, this is not the goal here. To say we must confess every sin is a knock against the finished work of Christ. How powerful is the work of Christ? And why did we as humans put a limit on it? The Bible says we have recieved the abundance of grace. Look, I hate sin as much as you do and Grace does not cause people to sin more, nor does the message tell them to just sin all you want, I despise sin and I believe that sin is taken away and I am no longer dominated by sin.

So we reverted from animal sacrifices covering sin for a year to now we have to make sure every sin is confessed everytime and we better remember by the time we die? This is not good news, this is very bad news for all of us. 1 John 1:9 is speaking to people (unsaved) that were creeping into the church saying they had no sin, which in turn meant that they did not need a saviour. The word 'confess' means to agree with. John is telling these people if you will confess (agree with God that you are a sinner in need of a savior) the He is Just to forgive you and Cleanse you from all unrighteousness. Many people look over the next chapter, 1 John 2:12 John says " I write unto you because your sins are forgiven... So is John trying to confuse the church first writing that they need to still be cleansed of all unrighteousness and confess but then a few sentences later saying O but your sins are forgiven or is it possible he was addressing unsaved people in the first chapter, evangelizing, saying YOU NEED A SAVIOUR and then reminding the Church that their sins are forgiven in Christ.

What is it are we forgiven, not forgiven, forgiven, not forgiven like the game of she loves me she loves me not? I mean the Gospel is waaay better than that. You know, we take one verse and run a whole entire doctrine on it. There is not one verse under the new covenant that says "ask God for forgiveness" its not there! Why? Well, because we don't need to ask, upon believing in Jesus we received that forgiveness. In fact Jesus prayed for our forgiveness, on the cross "Father forgive them for they know not what they do" that was for all of humanity.
 

justbyfaith

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I think that when we confess our besetting sins, the Lord is faithful and just to forgive us of those sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9).

This is not only sanctification it is forgiveness.

It is a sign that in order to be forgiven we must repent.

For we are forgiven at the same time that we are cleansed from all unrighteousness (sanctification).

It is an important part of the sanctification process that we walk in the light as He is in the light; so that the Holy Spirit can pinpoint our sins; in order that we may confess them and be cleansed from all unrighteousness.

I can think of three scriptures that teach that sanctification comes before justification.

1 Peter 1:2 (as compared to Romans 5:9);

2 Thessalonians 2:13; and,

1 Corinthians 6:11.

The understanding that I have shown above is a fourth scripture that speaks of this truth.