12,000 Baptized
- Thread starter Wansvic
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I hope they got saved too.
It really depends on who was preaching the gospel, if it was a true gospel or false gospel.
I know if a church and Bible college that had many baptisms every Sunday and far more during special events. It was near Chicago and they drove a huge fleet of busses for long distances to bring them.
It was mostly genuine conversions although some who were not saved got involved too.
I listened to the 700 Club news for years.
However their endorsement of anything doesn't lend it's credibility. This might have been a totally biblical event with the true gospel presented by believers from good churches.
However, sadly the founder the 700 Club preached a false works based salvation .
We know that it's not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us .
Titus 3:5
May the revival of folks getting saved continue and grow if that's what it is.
God is merciful with or without baptism.
It really depends on who was preaching the gospel, if it was a true gospel or false gospel.
I know if a church and Bible college that had many baptisms every Sunday and far more during special events. It was near Chicago and they drove a huge fleet of busses for long distances to bring them.
It was mostly genuine conversions although some who were not saved got involved too.
I listened to the 700 Club news for years.
However their endorsement of anything doesn't lend it's credibility. This might have been a totally biblical event with the true gospel presented by believers from good churches.
However, sadly the founder the 700 Club preached a false works based salvation .
We know that it's not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us .
Titus 3:5
May the revival of folks getting saved continue and grow if that's what it is.
God is merciful with or without baptism.
As a fairly frequent viewer of the 700 Club, I haven't noticed them pushing a works-based gospel. Fairly frequent doesn't mean extremely long-term, though so it's not impossible that I missed it, but please do be careful that you don't malign them unduly. I really appreciate their healthy demonstration of the gifts of the Spirit and their feet-on-the ground ministry work whatever other issues they may have.
I agree with you that it matters who is preaching the gospel but in my personal experience it hasn't been an issue of preaching the right gospel as much as an issue of insufficient teaching and assessment on if this gospel got fully communicated and applied. Therefore I have loved ones who thought they repented and received Holy Spirit, but it became evident later that they had not. For me, God seems to have directly gotten me to where I needed to be spiritually, but even at my baptism I had a discomfort from not really understanding consciously the depth of what these things meant. It wasn't till much later at a new fellowship God brought me too that they got spelled out sufficiently for my taste.
To summarize what was missing for those who might be reading here, repentance isn't just saying you're sorry, or even just that you want to be better. Rather, real repentance of salvation takes recognizing how truly hopeless we are without God and desperately wanting your very being that can do no good to be transformed.
I agree with you that it matters who is preaching the gospel but in my personal experience it hasn't been an issue of preaching the right gospel as much as an issue of insufficient teaching and assessment on if this gospel got fully communicated and applied. Therefore I have loved ones who thought they repented and received Holy Spirit, but it became evident later that they had not. For me, God seems to have directly gotten me to where I needed to be spiritually, but even at my baptism I had a discomfort from not really understanding consciously the depth of what these things meant. It wasn't till much later at a new fellowship God brought me too that they got spelled out sufficiently for my taste.
To summarize what was missing for those who might be reading here, repentance isn't just saying you're sorry, or even just that you want to be better. Rather, real repentance of salvation takes recognizing how truly hopeless we are without God and desperately wanting your very being that can do no good to be transformed.
-
1
- Show all
I haven't watched the 700 Club since the VA Hospital killed my Dad. Beware the VA hospital if you have friends and family who are veterans.
When I took him to an appointment, I remember Pat Robertson talking on the TV. When he or others presented the news, I listened. When he presented his version of the good news and leading the lost in prayer, I would warn Dad that salvation was by grace through faith in Jesus. If Pat Robertson were a brother in Christ, I would not warn you or him, but like the VA there's been plenty of just cause for more than concern.
I counted and remember that he gave 5 requirements for salvation. One of them was to promise to serve God all the days of your life. I don't find that in the Bible, do you?
Probably because it's not a command anywhere for a lost man, woman or child to lie to God and promise Him service in exchange for everlasting life. Jesus, the Son of God gave His life a Ransome for us all.
He is the only object of faith according to the Book of John that mentioned it exactly 100 times. It uses the term believe, which means the same as faith or trust.
I haven't been listening to the 700 Club lately, so I have no comment on the others.
As to what the Bible says about water baptism, it's not deep theologically, but we know it's deep water. The Evangelist Philip was asked by the Ethiopian if he would baptize him.
He responded simply by saying, "
4And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing."
Even though my Dad never got baptized, he went on his way rejoicing in that he obeyed the right gospel 2 months before they took his life. I am very glad that Dad is in Heaven today. Now I have to lead my Mom to Christ before the same happens to her.
When I took him to an appointment, I remember Pat Robertson talking on the TV. When he or others presented the news, I listened. When he presented his version of the good news and leading the lost in prayer, I would warn Dad that salvation was by grace through faith in Jesus. If Pat Robertson were a brother in Christ, I would not warn you or him, but like the VA there's been plenty of just cause for more than concern.
I counted and remember that he gave 5 requirements for salvation. One of them was to promise to serve God all the days of your life. I don't find that in the Bible, do you?
Probably because it's not a command anywhere for a lost man, woman or child to lie to God and promise Him service in exchange for everlasting life. Jesus, the Son of God gave His life a Ransome for us all.
He is the only object of faith according to the Book of John that mentioned it exactly 100 times. It uses the term believe, which means the same as faith or trust.
I haven't been listening to the 700 Club lately, so I have no comment on the others.
As to what the Bible says about water baptism, it's not deep theologically, but we know it's deep water. The Evangelist Philip was asked by the Ethiopian if he would baptize him.
He responded simply by saying, "
4And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man? 35Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. 36And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? 37And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. 38And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him. 39And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing."
Even though my Dad never got baptized, he went on his way rejoicing in that he obeyed the right gospel 2 months before they took his life. I am very glad that Dad is in Heaven today. Now I have to lead my Mom to Christ before the same happens to her.