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I read this site and dug and found out it's a Reformed Platform. It's funny that you believe personal agenda sites are more qualified than Theologians and Scholars.

Ignore? I provided the first 4 immediate possibilities according to majority of Bible Concordances and that means the first mentioned options normally is what the verse means. According to you it's the last options mentioned later because that's the only way it fits your personal doctrine.

You is YOU the one who is reading the Epistle.

Why would God save a physical planet that has no chance to go to Heaven? Of course it means everything including people. That's so obvious you have to completely understand that you are outright lying to deny such a thing.

In Koine Greek, "kosmos" (κόσμος) can be translated as "world" or "universe". It can also refer to the entire inhabited world or humankind. OK, like I said it means God's Creation because every possible definition refers to what God Created. I love it when you get foolish because when we have...

John used the Koine Greek so that eliminates the possibilities offered by the Hellenized Greek and what is known as today's Common Wealth Greek. The Koine Greek [Kosmos] is everything in existence. So Jesus died for all of His Creation.

Yes, God's Grace is the fact He takes time to actually manifest Himself to us.

I said that you just didn't comprehend it.

I also don't believe any human being goes seeking God on his initial thought and will. So many verses show us that God has manifested Himself to all humans whether through His Creation, through their Consciousness, or somehow we go to Church and hear the Preaching of the Gospel. But the common...

I tend to believe this because we know the RCC put the Canon together, formatted many of the current Church traditions, plus in their own historical record keeping even mention that the first 4 Centuries water Baptized in the NAME of Jesus before the RCC changed it to the Triune Formula...

Technically the lost sheep that went its own way abandoning the other 99 and caused God to go find it was hearing but not listening.

The demonic RCC is who decided what was Scripture to begin with as if the Spirit of God truly led them. Now, I love the Books we have. I have nothing against them. I just believe the ones people like Joshua, Abraham, David, other Prophets mentioned were added as well because they were...

That's close to the post I just made #13,216 (y)

Since no one is getting it due to their inerrant doctrine...the Father gave Yeshua the Disciples to carry on the work began by Yeshua so those who would later hear become believers. So Yeshua is thanking the Father for giving Him the Disciples.

Yes! But He first prayed for the Disciples is my point.

But He prayed that their word would be believed. So He is first and foremost praying about the Disciples.

I said Jesus was praying about the Disciples and you disagreed but used a verse that proves my point.

Look at your verse it says their word. Their is talking about the Disciples.

I love the example FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD and I John used a word that literally means Universe as in the entire creation and many will argue that still only means a few not the entire creation. The blind will always be blind and all we can do is ignore them.

John 17:9 is also talking specifically to and about the Disciples of Jesus. The Verses before explain this. Amazing how many take a single verse out of complete context and use it for something it doesn't mean.