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There is a massive difference between what is now known as pope and what was an elder or bishop. Pope is a erroneous title to start with. Pope means bridge, bishop means elder or servant. Popeism is way off the track.

You arent doing that. You are making strange interpretations. Trying to turn baptism into a work of man and some how done in some human righteousness. Which is fallacious

I dont know what you think no said, so let me be clear. There is one baptism. One receives the Gift of the Holy Spirit upon being baptized.

Because its not there and you have to interpret the Bible in extraordinary ways to come to that conclusion. It is written that there is one baptism. Ephesians chapter 4. This is a plain text.

Not if you use normal reading comprehension and leave out the humanism.

There is only one baptism. Titus 3:5 clearly states the opposite. not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, Titus 3:5 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/tit.3.5.NKJV Note the word...

Sadly, you will not convince anyone of what scripture literally says. They have their logical hoops through which they jump so as to work the work of removing baptism. If they cant remove it altogether they remove its efficacy and its meaning. Its all a work of man to them. From choosing God or...

Baptism is not a human work. It is a work of God via the Holy Spirit. That is clear by all the passages about baptism.

More sadness.

If thier word contradict or attempt to explain away scripture there is nothing much else to say about it.

By human reason and sinful philosophy because flesh hates God.

Humans with Human reasoning attempting to remove an ordinance of God through Christ Jesus himself. What a sad and horrible work of Satan. To jump through so many mental hoops and interpret away the beauty and purpose of water baptism. Though Jesus was baptized himself to sanctify the waters for...

Because people dont believe what is written in scripture.

That dont mean they rule out or over ride passages that say baptism saves/washes away sin/ join us to Christ in his death and his resurrection. Because the passages that say that are scripture and are truth.

Not even close.

In no way say baptism is symbolic. Those passages arent about baptism.

Maybe in word, but I see many directly contradict what is literally written.

This tread reminds me of a recent thread here about believing what the Bible actually says as opposed to imposing our reason upon it. The Bible clearly says baptism washes away sins, joins us to Jesus in his death and resurrection and and literally say baptism saves in 1Peter 3:16. We as...

So did Tertullian. His treaties on baptism makes it very clear.

And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord.’ Acts 22:16 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/act.22.16.NKJV There is also an antitype which now saves us—baptism (not the removal of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good...