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  1. Clayman

    Rapture

    Do you have a verse or two that backs this up? am curious how you can possibly come to this conclusion, Why do post tribbers have this picture of meeting the Lord in the clouds? I read it as, we gather together and ascend in clouds to meet the Lord in the air not meet in the clouds, Not trying...
  2. Clayman

    Rapture

    I dont think anyone believes we will ascend in clouds to meet in the clouds, as it does not make sense for anyone, and as you say, once we meet the Lord in the air, there are two possibilities for us, continue on to be at home with the Lord in heaven or do a 180 and come back to earth which to...
  3. Clayman

    Demons

    Let me explain what I think you have done another way so you understand how I think! Let me make up A parallel example similar to the Lord calling Peter Satan. Say a husband cheats on his wife, and his wife calls him a good for nothing Judas. She is referring to Judas kissing the lord to...
  4. Clayman

    Demons

    Matt 16:23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.” Jesus had just announced His mission He was to accomplish was to about to be fulfilled, to lay down His life to pay for...
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    The thief on the cross in Luke 23 "And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom." brightfame to the thief, "you works exalting idiot how dare you ask the Lord for eternal life, you think you can earn your way into heaven." And Jesus to the Thief "Verily I say...
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    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    Exactly, You dont see anything about believing or anything about not believing in Rom 5:18 as all it is saying is by one offence (Adam) came death, and by one righteous person (Christ) came the gift of life, oh and I nearly forgot the caveat included here, this is death and life for all men...
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    Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

    The sda version of premillennialism basically deletes chapters and chapters from the old testament as the prophecies are no longer needed or relevant since the nation of Israel rejected Christ at His first coming and dont get an opportunity at His second? I mean how could a all knowing all...
  8. Clayman

    Does Rom 5:18 teach that Christ died for all men without exception ?

    One can never form a doctrine from any one verse, yet the question you are asking is if we are to look at this one verse does it teach that all men without exception have access to Life eternal, then yes this verse does seem to saying that in isolation. I mean take this verse to a classroom...
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    Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

    Follower, Do you actually believe there is a future literal 1000yrs yet we will be heaven? sorry if Im not understanding, If I read your last paragraph literally we will be in heaven for a 1000yrs while earth is destroyed for a 1000yrs :eek::LOL: So how do you see what will be happening on...
  10. Clayman

    Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

    I may not entirely understand what your saying, but I think your saying that the promise given to the nation Israel in regards to the land of Israel by God, no longer applies to the physical nation of Israel today because we the Church have received and taken the promises upon ourselves through...
  11. Clayman

    Have the times of the gentiles ended in 1967?

    Agreed! Also persecution and hatred of Jews is on a massive rise, they are starting to feel unsafe in numerous countries, God said he was going to gather Israel to the land of Canaan, He never explicitly said by what means that He would use to achieve this, but irrational hatred, jealousy, and...
  12. Clayman

    God, co-actor in Jesus' sufferings or contributive non-actor?

    I don't see the physical suffering and death of Jesus at the hands of men, as the mechanism for our salvation. In fact what we need saved from is not physical death but spiritual death. We need to be rescued from the Lake of fire yet since we are sinners that's where we deserve to go. If...
  13. Clayman

    666 and Islam?

    Six is obviously the number of man, and I don't think we are being told the number six hundred and sixty six but rather 6 and 6 and 6 as in a 3 man trinity. The first beast comes out of the sea, and sea is typical of peoples or gentile nations in the Bible, this man (Antichrist) is also...
  14. Clayman

    Demons

    No... Well, Not me, I believe all the demons were cast out in the first century, So not only can we not be possessed neither can non Christians. They were cast out and are now in chains of darkness reserved for the day of the Lord then they will be released out of the pit to torment men in...
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    The Real Antichrist For The End

    I don't believe they were cast out of heaven at the cross, they were cast out of heaven after the woman(Israel) was with child. (God became flesh to dwell among us) heavens throne was vacated and as Saran had said in his heart he was going to ascend into heaven above the clouds to the throne of...
  16. Clayman

    The Real Antichrist For The End

    As I said I have a simple take of it, which obviously means I was saying that I also don't see any Numerology or Gematria being used to reveal who the Antichrist is. But rather it reveals that there are three beasts, two of whom are thrown alive into the lake of fire 6=man-beast 6=man-beast...
  17. Clayman

    The Real Antichrist For The End

    Thats not what Im asking. And I don't know how to ask so that you may be able to comprehend my question, my question is... You know in the gospel accounts when Jesus cast out demons and healed people, I want to know who you think these fallen angels, these demons are in these accounts. Some...
  18. Clayman

    The Real Antichrist For The End

    I dont think that 666 as the number of the beast is that complicated or hard to work out, there are three beasts and they are represented by the number 6, the number six is the number of man and represents man. Enjoyed your thoughts, I sure agree on some but not all points. Yes the beast that...
  19. Clayman

    The Real Antichrist For The End

    I know what you believe, you say Satan and the one third rebelled in the ancient world, and again you say Satan and one third rebel in the future tribulation period. The question Im asking and am curious about is when you read the gospel of Matthew and the gospel of Mark and the gospel of Luke...
  20. Clayman

    Two creation stories

    2Cor 5:1 For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. 2 Cor 4:18 So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.