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  1. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Exactly, as Spock would say, its the logical conclusion (y) Also I was to add in my reply to TDW, the departure has to happen before the revealing of the man of sin, those who say the departure is the departure from faith, seem to apply this as happening in the day of the Lord, where as...
  2. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Thanks. When you say it will be a worse time for us, that even the holocaust will pale in comparison, obviously the scale will be more worldwide, but the treatment may even be better, I mean being beheaded will be a better way to go than what happened in ww2, the photos and video are enough to...
  3. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    What I find funny is I gave no comments about the word, just bracketed the more correct word, yet you also have used the word as in "departure" from the faith. Funnily enough to me from your view 'departure' is also a better word to use. I just wonder why God used this word "apostasia" as one...
  4. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Thanks, Im still eagerly waiting for a response from 2ndTimeIsTheCharm as I am genuinely curious what and how they are preparing for when they enter the tribulation, or how we are to prepare for it in layman's terms, is it the big Shock we are going to get when we realise there is no pre trib...
  5. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    My translation(nkjv) would be better translated as though the day of the Lord had come. but to me the verses are still talking about our gathering together to Him{rapture} as though the day of the Lord(tribulation) had come. And think we are in agreement the Day of the Lord is in the 70th week...
  6. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    I also just take 2thes ch 2 as it is plainly stated, I obviously aint no scholar, so I just read scripture like a 10yr old which is probably about my reading lvl, and apply basic understanding to the verses. Now brethren concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (do not stop reading here...
  7. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    I really dont understand comments like this. To me there is nothing to prepare for, well spiritually there is not, yet spiritually there is for the pre trib rapture, and physically there is nothing to prepare for in the pre trib scenario but are you saying we should prepare physically for a...
  8. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Ok, then we are agreed there is no correlation with adventure sports to Russian roulette activities.
  9. Clayman

    The GAP Theory

    Don't you find it even a little coincidental that God showed no man the Gap and billions of years, until the last couple hundred of years, and now that evolution is taught in schools and has become mainstream, now God is showing people the gap, Are you sure peoples bias for example with...
  10. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Kids (boys and girls) under 10 are now racing moto x, so rightly or wrongly I thinks its endorsed by the parents.
  11. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Basketball and soccer are up near the top with injuries to people, but don't do lawn bowls, the fatality rate is about the highest, yet its seems rather under recorded there's a conspiracy here somewhere. In heaven when I build my race tracks and you come and see how fast you can go, you will...
  12. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    hehe I know right horses cant drive! Im not going to post about anything about woman drivers, there's always exceptions to the rule :p:LOL: My car goes a little bit faster than my motorbike, goes over a couple hundred easy, yet in a race(on a track) my bike would probably win, Im not sure...
  13. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    I think I had my real image up for a short amount of time, but realised I could do with some photo editing, maybe others arrived at the same conclusion :eek::D
  14. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    They can be a bit dangerous I guess, to me safer than a horse :LOL:. Wife wanted to get a bike, Im like nah! You need a higher amount of rush junkie:devilish: in yah to ride safe.
  15. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    HeisHere is not a he :-) Ah north Sweden it pretty much is the sister to southern New Zealand :cool:
  16. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    My apologies I have no idea of the hidden conversation, if their has been sinister stuff happen In peoples lives I did not realise, Where I was born and raised people go hiking/hunting for days by themselves including my mother when she was younger, Ive seen the photos, My daughter was taught to...
  17. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    My house at the moment has a garage and a workshop, so I just imagine a big garage and a big workshop in my Mansion ;)
  18. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    I know a few, my kids for example, their friends Is basketball a high risk sport? My wife has broken leg at the moment from sport lol, picked up one of the kids the other day, crashed while snowboarding, dislocated shoulder, so running around after people a bit lately, Its pretty normal in my...
  19. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Oh Yes!! a snowmobile:devilish::devilish: it will be parked in my garage right beside my Jetski, my garage is going to have to be ginormous haha John 14 In my house are many garages and workshops, and if I go, I will bring you to be there with me. :unsure::)
  20. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    I've been on a motorbike since I was six years old, played rugby, learnt how to ski and snowboard as part of school, as we are close to ski fields, when I get to heaven I'm definitely going to be racing a bike around with my Christian mates who raced professionally, also I'm going to hit the...