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  1. Clayman

    The devil sinned from the beginning

    1 John 3:8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Exactly, it depends on what in the beginning means, and for this we must be consistent in our biblical application. For some reason when it concerns Satan people throw logic and...
  2. Clayman

    The GAP Theory

    You say Satan had dominion over the previous earth, could you expand upon this, was there animals, plants? dinosaurs that Satan ruled over in the first creation? Also why was there no consequence, If Satan mucked up the first creation to the point it needed remade and started again, then is it...
  3. Clayman

    God loved Lucifer, but...

    I actually think this is a legitimate line of thinking, Our God's character is a Gracious God, A Merciful God, a Loving God, its Who He Is, we understand the Character and personality traits of God, and He can't be any different. Part of the reason we can totally trust Him is that He's a fair...
  4. Clayman

    The book of Job, my favorite book.

    Yea, we kinda grasp at straws trying to understand why God has done things the way He has done things. Satan was meant to be acting in a priestly or mediating role, and maybe he was, turning up to where Job offered his sacrifices. Lucifer means bearer of light or the morning star which is a...
  5. Clayman

    The book of Job, my favorite book.

    Exactly, great point with God abandoning Jesus on the cross, the turmoil and anxiety Jesus must have felt we will never know. I hate going to the dentist, when I do, or go to surgery or do a test for certain privileges like driving my anxiety levels go through the roof, but nothing compared to...
  6. Clayman

    The book of Job, my favorite book.

    Job(Jesus) was stripped bare, so we can see his inner workings so to speak. Naked he came from his mothers womb and naked he shall return Job 1:21. Adam and Eve(mankind) after sinning needed to cover themselves to hide their/our shame, Jesus at the cross was stripped naked as part of the...
  7. Clayman

    The book of Job, my favorite book.

    I love reading yours and everyone else's thoughts on Job as funnily enough it is also one of my favourite books of the bible. I do read it from a slightly different perspective, I see Job as more deeply revealing Christ to us, I think people think the Lord as a wee bit mechanical or going...
  8. Clayman

    The GAP Theory

    The problem or agenda I have in disagreeing with you, is that I simply refuse to go outside or add to God's Word. If you have a good reason then I would consider it. But. But to me God's Word clearly states by one man sin entered the world. You state that by one Satan sin entered the world...
  9. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Exactly, as Spock would say, its the logical conclusion (y) Also I was to add in my reply to TDW, the departure has to happen before the revealing of the man of sin, those who say the departure is the departure from faith, seem to apply this as happening in the day of the Lord, where as...
  10. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Thanks. When you say it will be a worse time for us, that even the holocaust will pale in comparison, obviously the scale will be more worldwide, but the treatment may even be better, I mean being beheaded will be a better way to go than what happened in ww2, the photos and video are enough to...
  11. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    What I find funny is I gave no comments about the word, just bracketed the more correct word, yet you also have used the word as in "departure" from the faith. Funnily enough to me from your view 'departure' is also a better word to use. I just wonder why God used this word "apostasia" as one...
  12. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    Thanks, Im still eagerly waiting for a response from 2ndTimeIsTheCharm as I am genuinely curious what and how they are preparing for when they enter the tribulation, or how we are to prepare for it in layman's terms, is it the big Shock we are going to get when we realise there is no pre trib...
  13. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    My translation(nkjv) would be better translated as though the day of the Lord had come. but to me the verses are still talking about our gathering together to Him{rapture} as though the day of the Lord(tribulation) had come. And think we are in agreement the Day of the Lord is in the 70th week...
  14. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    I also just take 2thes ch 2 as it is plainly stated, I obviously aint no scholar, so I just read scripture like a 10yr old which is probably about my reading lvl, and apply basic understanding to the verses. Now brethren concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (do not stop reading here...
  15. Clayman

    God`s Appointed Time for the Rapture.

    I really dont understand comments like this. To me there is nothing to prepare for, well spiritually there is not, yet spiritually there is for the pre trib rapture, and physically there is nothing to prepare for in the pre trib scenario but are you saying we should prepare physically for a...
  16. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Ok, then we are agreed there is no correlation with adventure sports to Russian roulette activities.
  17. Clayman

    The GAP Theory

    Don't you find it even a little coincidental that God showed no man the Gap and billions of years, until the last couple hundred of years, and now that evolution is taught in schools and has become mainstream, now God is showing people the gap, Are you sure peoples bias for example with...
  18. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Kids (boys and girls) under 10 are now racing moto x, so rightly or wrongly I thinks its endorsed by the parents.
  19. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    Basketball and soccer are up near the top with injuries to people, but don't do lawn bowls, the fatality rate is about the highest, yet its seems rather under recorded there's a conspiracy here somewhere. In heaven when I build my race tracks and you come and see how fast you can go, you will...
  20. Clayman

    Does the Bible say anything about doing adventure sports?

    hehe I know right horses cant drive! Im not going to post about anything about woman drivers, there's always exceptions to the rule :p:LOL: My car goes a little bit faster than my motorbike, goes over a couple hundred easy, yet in a race(on a track) my bike would probably win, Im not sure...