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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    The “Calvinistic loophole.” Based purely on men’s assumption—not God or scripture.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    Well, that’s all true, but I am at a loss to know how it teaches “once saved, always saved.”
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    if it’s in His word, as you say, then tell us where? Otherwise, it’s just your opinion; and you know what they say about opinions—they are like belly buttons—everybody has one. Without scripture, it means nothing.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    Please give me the scripture that says that a saved person cannot lose salvation.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    I’m afraid not. Neither does it make you correct in your doctrine.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    An ASSUMPTION on your part. Nowhere in the scriptures did God ever say that. Your whole premis-doctrine- is built on an assumption not found in the Bible. Neither can you KNow it because you are not God.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    ???? Not enough information here so that I can figure out what exactly what you are accusing me of.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    Wow! I am amazed that you can know all that—the love of God is a “positional love”, and somehow you know that the prodigal son “did not experience the love of God intimately “ and all without the Bible telling you that. Not even a hint. Amazing how you can know all that without Christ...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    Where? And don’t give me a bunch of verses showing the FAITHFUL to God are secure. We all know that God is going to save those who are in His fold. These are not “unfaithful”, wayward, or lost. Show me a REAL scripture that is talking about a child of God who is sinning or living in sin but...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    And there are SO MANY scriptures that are very plain on the possibility of a believer being lost; not to mention parables ( the “lost sheep” and the “Prodigal Son” ; examples (Simon the Sorcerer Acts 8) and Jesus’s own words in Matthew 7 where he says “depart from me” to a group of BELIEVERS who...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    where is the scripture that says or shows that a SINNER will be saved in His sins. ( unrepentant)? you have based your premise on an assumption of your own making. Don’t give me scripture that show God “sealing” the saved, faithful child of God—we all know that salvation is secure for the...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    Paul is comparing the “natural man) unsaved to the “spiritual” man saved. Don’t know exactly what your point is.
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    You are trying to “qualify” here where God does not qualify; you are trying to “limit” sin where Gos has not “limited.” But you know, it really doesn’t matter, because God still makes His point —that a SAVED Person can so sin as to be lost. It doesn’t matter to our debate , if he has sinned one...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    John 15 :9-10 says we abide in God’s love —IF—we keep His commandments. To suggest that it is not possible to do that is to accuse God of lying. You impeach God’s word and blaspheme. In Luke 18 a rich young ruler asked Jesus, “What must I do to inherit eternal life?” What was Jesus’s answer...
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    I was wondering who believes you can get unsaved.

    There is a difference between being separated from the “LOVE” of God and being separated from God, as I’m sure you know. So to try to use this verse to prove the impossibility of apostasy makes me wonder what could be your motive? Also, I believe Luke 15, the story of the “lost sheep” has...
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    Another look at John 10.

    All of the scriptures you are posting do nothing but show that faithful believers are secure in their salvation. NoT ONE scripture that shows an “unfaithful” , “wayward” Christian who has left the fold of God and is living in sin — like the prodigal son— is saved in that condition. You can’t...
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    Another look at John 10.

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    Another look at John 10.

    You obviously have not read Exodus 32:33 GOD says, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will BLOT HIM OUT OF MY BOOK.” Even Moses knew God could do that. Verse 32. Deuteronomy 29:20-21-“the Lord would BLOT OUT his name from under heaven.” Revelation 3:5 Jesus says if they are faithful, I will...
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    Another look at John 10.

    Is that what you get from that story? Read for yourself. Had the lost sheep already repented before the Good shepherd sought him? Maybe, because he was lost and in trouble. We can’t tell from the information given, when the sheep repented. It only says he did. Does this story in any way...