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Rev 20 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads...

Rev 13 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. 6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. 7 And it was given...

Can you counter one of gideon's several points?

CNN and every liberal news outlet is in agreement with you. Propaganda is powerful as you are demonstrating. Do some diligence and see that Sidney powel and others were spot on and the cover up works great as you also demonstrate. The cover up was so massive nobody would touch it...

4 years later, over a million casualties. Can you imagine 12 or 14 NFL football stadiums of people dead? And then expecting more? Putin giving free tickets to those in line. In 4 years how do you bury that many young men? What is the new stats in life expectancy in Russia? 45 or so?

Ahhhh, someone is paying attention. Amazing how context brightens up the picture.

It will be a horrible and terrible day. A time of dread will cover them like a heavy blanket

Try and concerse civily. All those put downs are lame.

...and others Yawn.

It's like saying 1/3 of the NT is Jesus wasting his breath. Every topic on the board has been talked through.

No pretribber has a problem with the 1st resurrection. But few in either camp know the parts of the first resurrection. "First-fruits" would be a good place to start learning.

Now read the pretrib rapture verses. Jesus said them. Maybe start hearing all Jesus said instead of worrying about Darby and other dead men your doctrine molested.

You seem to have invented a problem. Of course the AC is REVEALED, AND THEN THE RAPTURE. That is what it says. But it does not prove any smoking gun that you are inventing. That is a huge problem with postribbers. They go extra biblical and attempt to destroy the messenger, while hoping to...

You listed 2 resurrections.

Where does he imply there are 2? I think both of you have a "only one resurrection" adherence.

Why do you think "replacement" theology in its final conclusion changes the 144,000, Israel as a people, the tribes, and the 144,000 as firstfruits? IOW ....THE OP PRECISELY Lines up with THAT in his mishandling of scripture. "RT"....IS RIGHT ON TOPIC. IT DIRECTLY CUTS INTO THE OP.

After the mil is the general resurrection. It says "the sea gave up her dead". The GWTJ is what the entire population of earth is resurrected to. That is 1000 years apart from the dead in Christ exclusive first resurrection and your erroneous "only resurrection". You assume dynamics and it...

I am thankful for that.

Are you replacement theology? ( the Jews no longer exist?)

There is an interesting twist for those that had adhere to the replacement theology doctrine. Since the Jews no longer exist in their strange doctrine, and the 7 year tribulation ( Israel's trouble) , is now belonging to the church? Wow, once a person accepts false doctrine, it's like they...