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Addressing this specific point, James wrote, James 2:8-11 KJV 8) If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9) But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10) For whosoever...

Who is such a person? The Bible doesn't allow for it, with numerous passages that only remain true if the regenerate remain saved at the end of it all. The Bible clearly expresses that the ones who do not remain were not true to begin with. Who is the regenerate Christian who "loses" their...

Amen!! And welcome to the party!! I agree, we have to remember what "salvation" is, not just a punched ticket so you can board the train when you die, but to know the true living God, our Creator. We been reconciled - restored to relationship - and that while we were still enemies of God...

I agree with this. God came to me, I didn't go to Him. He made me aware that His Word was in fact truth, the only thing I did was to decide not to resist Him. I wanted to know the truth, and that was the truth. Much love!

The fact is, if we're repented and believed in the Lord Jesus Christ, we've already "given our permission", that is, we've submitted to His will for us. Much love!

Even so, that's our mission. We are to maintain our bond of peace so we can have unity in the Spirit, even when we disagree, until we reach agreement. Much love!

We're works in process . . . Ephesians 4:11-16 KJV 11) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: 13) Till we all come in...

Very well said! Much love!

And all of your loaded language does not help to keep my interest. I'm not into this kind of presumption towards others. It's like you are more interested in scoring points than having a conversation. We can all say stuff like this . . . "I know it's hard to not get personal when that's all...

We read the Bible in different ways, and I don't think we will reach agreement on this. I'm rather certain of my view, I've studied these things in great depth over many years. You seem equally certain, I don't see the need to keep circling around on this. Much love!

I've already replied to one place. I think we've made the rounds on this topic. Much love!

Look, I'm not really into a converstation where I'm challenged to "explain away" the verses we disagree over. And this post is far too long for me to really tackle right now. If you have a single particular question you'd like to ask me, let's get back to simple. You were asking about Hebrews...

If you would, re-ask me what you are looking for. Appreciate it! Much love!

At the end of the day that's where I think disagreements arise from between otherwise agreeable persons. That one gives more weight to this passage, and the other gives more weight to that passage. My endeavor is that I give the most weight to those that make the least ambiguous statements...

It all comes down to our soteriology. I find in Scripture that we are reconciled to God in Christ, and not in anything we've done or not done. For me, this is definitive. What I do not gain by good works I do not lose by bad works. The thinking that I can lose my salvation frames salvation...

Hey, I'm sorry if I misunderstood you. So just to clarify . . . you do not consider a permissive attitude towards sin to be a problem that results from believing all sin is forgiven, and we are saved by grace through faith, not having anything to do with our works? I had thought this was...

It's axiomatic. Do this, and that results. In this case, have this expectation, self purification results. And yes, John does go on to speak plainly about sin. That doesn't change the truth of what he had just written. Much love!

That was my takeaway from your post: If we rely entirely on grace it means we get to do all these things without limit, isn't that your objection? Ephesians 2:10 KJV For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in...

Concerning "staying reborn", and the need for obedience, I find this is addressed by John. The concern is, IF we are permanently saved, where is the motivation to live holy lives? I mean, if we don't lose anything if we don't live holy, then why bother? Some teach that you have to remain...

But you said grace means we can just live in sin, but why would you want to? Who is it who is regenerated who rejoices in sin? I hear this bandied about as an objection to grace through faith forever rebirth, that it means we can freely sin all we want. So I ask, how much do you want? To me...