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  1. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    I'm seeing "your sons and daughters shall prophesy"; not "your sons and daughters shall prophesy and speak in tongues". The two are not mutually inclusive. One can prophesy without doing so via tongues.
  2. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Yes, it's a phenomenon found across the globe and encompasses many different cultures and belief systems. The "mechanics", if you will, of its production do not differ markedly from culture to culture - it's all essentially produced the same way and typically draws on the speaker's native...
  3. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Perhaps you would be so kind as to record yourself speaking in tongues for about a minute or so and post it here for analysis. I'll wait as well.
  4. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    It doesn't bother me at all - just merrily pointing out the mechanics, so to speak, of the modern phenomenon. The bottom line is very simple - there just isn't anything you're producing that cannot be explained in light of relatively simple linguistics. If tongues-speech had a morphology, a...
  5. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Regardless of the source, when you put the spoken word from X to Y, it's called 'interpretation'. If it were something written, putting it from X to Y is called 'translation'. Granted, these days, the concept of interpretation allows for some degree of going off on tangents, but essentially...
  6. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Interpretation equates to translation - the difference in English is not overly obvious; one typically "interprets" the spoken word, but "translates" the written. I would respectfully argue that in that part of the text, Paul is addressing real language issues facing a multi-cultural and...
  7. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Not trying to get into an argument, but, I have discussed 1 Cor. 14:2 quite a bit in other threads as well as some of the things you bring up. Didn’t want to repeat myself here, but…. With respect to 1 Cor. 14:2 – The whole passage is talking about real, rational language. Let me use an...
  8. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Precisely - Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles – it stands to reason that he would use his knowledge of languages more than the average person. It was essentially part of his ‘job description’. He’s not advocating for modern tongues-speech here.
  9. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles – it stands to reason that he would use his knowledge of languages more than the average person. It was essentially part of his ‘job description’. He’s not advocating for modern tongues-speech here. Yes, Paul left instructions for how to handle real...
  10. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    As stated, I am neither a cessationist nor a continuationist; I do not identify with either term. In fact I had never heard of either until just a few years ago. This seems to be 'born again Christian' nomenclature. As far as the audience needing an interpreter, it's because no one there at...
  11. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    It's definitely not an "attack" - modern tongues-speech is what it is - non-cognitive non-language utterance. There just isn't anything you're producing that can't be explained in relatively simple linguistic terms. I'm not denying its strength/use as a spiritual tool, as I said, the "tongues...
  12. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    Sort of - there's a difference. Tolkien's languages are what are popularly called "con langs", that is, constructed languages. Unlike modern tongues-speech, con langs have a definite set pronunciation, and most importantly, a set grammar and lexicon. Tolkien based the sound of his two main...
  13. Kavik

    TONGUES TODAY

    As someone mentioned - here we go again. In answer to the question, I guess it depends on who you ask - here's a Linguist's take..... There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" – when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s)...
  14. Kavik

    Would you read the Koran?

    Yes. of course. You can't understand (or perhaps better stated for some, 'criticize') a particular religious path without at least some basic knowledge of it's sacred text. Whether the Qu'ran, Bhagavad Gita, Vedas, The Avesta, Sutras, Kipitaka, ect. or the oral tradition of those...
  15. Kavik

    Why is "Good Friday" called "good?"

    The answer to "Good" Friday has to do with the history of the English language. The Anglo-Saxon word "gôd" means "good", the Anglo-Saxon word "god" means "God". Both words are pronounced almost alike. It was common to refer to the Christian God as "the good God" (as opposed to the...
  16. Kavik

    TONGUES false teaching.

    Part 2 - One would think it impossible to study the history of Pentecostalism without, at the very least, a cursory look at this ‘tongues issue’. Because the Pentecostal doctrine and understanding on tongues was completely redefined, this would seem to present a problem – how can something like...
  17. Kavik

    TONGUES false teaching.

    Part 1 - There is absolutely nothing mysterious about Biblical "tongues" – when referring to something spoken, they are nothing more than real, rational language(s); usually unknown to those listening to them, but always known by the speaker(s) – it’s their native language. In contrast, the...
  18. Kavik

    How Christmas, and Other, Songs Affect Doctrine

    They're carols, people; not scholarly Biblical dissertations - Seriously, chill out!
  19. Kavik

    Gold, Frankincense, and Myrrh

    Up until relatively recently - they were one in the same.
  20. Kavik

    The star of Betleham and bible prophecy

    Well, it's not a star; it's two planets in a grand conjunction - even though they'll be virtually right on top of each other (i.e. less than 1 degree apart to the naked eye), their conjunction will not be as bright as Venus is in the early morning sky. I think many people are expecting this...