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Yep - it's an old debate - it may be worth considering the following: People are taking this way too literally (kind of like the whole '40 days and 40 nights' thing). Like 40 days and 40 nights, 3 days and 3 nights is an idiomatic expression in Hebrew. Common knowledge to anyone living at the...

Can you give an exact source? I believe Augustus' quote is in reference to Herod having his sons executed; not the Holy Innocents.

"All false religions deny, redefine, or supplement some or all of the following truth:...." No, actually, that just reasserts religio-centrism in the extreme - if it doesn't conform 100% to my beliefs, it's false.

This quote is somewhat misleading - it has nothing to do with the Slaughter of the Innocents, but refers solely to Herod's sons. In view of these executions, Augustus reportedly quipped that, “It is better to be Herod’s pig than son” (Macrobius, Saturnalia, 2:4:11)—the joke being that, since...

Part 2 - What is fascinating is that even back then it was recognized that there must have been at one time some parent language, some “common tongue” for the various languages people encountered in their “world”. The (somewhat) mutual intelligibility between these languages, or at the very...

Guess this needs to be done in two parts. The Babel narrative is really quite fascinating from the perspective of historical linguistics in that it is one of very few ancient accounts of a people remembering (in a manner of speaking) the history of their language(s) - told of course in a...

Yes, exactly - If the history of the Pentecost movement is examined, one fact is very clear: at some point, between 1906 and 1907, the Pentecostal church was compelled to re-examine the narrative of Scripture with respect to “tongues”. The reason for this re-examination was that it quickly...

It depends on who you ask - for me the term Christian is a broad term, but for others, it seems to be very specific to only a handful of denominations; most, at least in my experience, revolving around whether one is 'born again/saved' or not.

Correct - I am not 'born again', if that's what you're asking.

This is a discussion forum; by its very nature the expectation and assumption is that any poster may be quoted in a reply – that’s part and parcel of a discussion forum. If you do not wish to be quoted; refrain from posting on a given thread.

OK - but the point is, what is being described in the narrative is nothing more than real, rational language; not modern tongues-speech.

How would you define it? It defininetely is not modern tongues-speech, nor is it xenoglossy.

Where exactly do you find that? At Pentecost, the Holy Spirit gave the 12 apostles what in the Greek text is “apophtheggesthai” – usually translated as “to give utterance”. This is not, however, the most accurate translation of this Greek word, but it’s the one that has come to be the more or...

See my original post - ‘Tongues’ (read, *‘languages’* ) – the divine gift, is the God given ability effortlessly learn to speak and be understood through real-language barriers. It is not xenoglossy, nor is it modern tongues-speech.

With respect to Peter and Cornelius, we have to put this into a bit of quick historical perspective from what we know about Roman soldiers. Given that Cornelius commanded a unit known as the “Italian Regiment”, one may surmise that he was from Italy (Latin, “Italia”) and that his native language...

“Tongues of angels” is frequently used as a vehicle to posit ‘angelic speech’. That entire phrase, as well as a few others in that particular part of Paul’s letter, is 100% pure textbook hyperbole no matter how one wishes to slice and dice it. There’s just no getting around that. In all...

Paul was the apostle to the Gentiles – it stands to reason he would use his knowledge of foreign languages more than the average person to spread the Gospel, and thanked God for giving him the ability to do so. A frequent use of foreign languages was sort of part of his “job description”. It...

Yep - that passage that many like to quote to posit 'angelic speech" is textbook hyperbole. In all instances of angels speaking, it has always been in a real, rational language. In fact, in traditional Jewish belief, angels can only speak and understand one language; specifically, the...

I'm pretty sure everyone knows that "unknown" with respect to 'tongues' is a 16th century addition to the texts - the word used simply means "language". It's unfortunate that this archaic term "tongue(s)" in reference to language is still used in Biblical texts. There is absolutely nothing...

And a few from Hebrew - Ari - lion Dov - bear Kaleb/Caleb - dog Namir - leopard Here's a few more - Conan - hound/wolf (Gaelic) Ulv/Ulf/Ulvr - wolf (Germanic) Tangi - fire dog (Breton) Corvin - raven (Latin) Philip - horse lover (Greek) And let's not forget a slew of English names...