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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    Zechariah 14:2-3 KJV 2) For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3) Then shall the...
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    I was interested in when you see it happening. Joel 3:1-2 KJV 1) For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem, 2) I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them...
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    When do you see the Jews being gathered, at that same time? Much love!
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    How do you see the sheep/goats judgment in Matthew 25? Exactly as written? A gentile judgment when Jesus takes His throne after He returns? Much love!
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    In that the church was revealed through Paul, Jesus did not reveal the church, therefore, His prophecies were not concerning the church, therefore, His prophecies were concerning Israel. Jesus was not prophesying the rapture of the church in the gathering of the elect in the Olivette Discourse...
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    That's a good question! I've not seen anywhere it's stated, so all I can say is after our death/transformation. What do you think? Much love!
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    GOD'S ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR BELIEVERS

    We will never know Christ's liberating power unless we are first willing to say "no" to our sin. And afterward, hold our course. Much love!
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    GOD'S ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR BELIEVERS

    Anyway, I'm glad someone else sees the same that I do! Much love!
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    There are a number of things that are only compatible with pre-trib rapture, like the Sheep/Goats judgment, for instance. The sealing of teh 144,000, for another example. And that the church was revealed by Paul, this negates many non-pre-trib arguments. I've consistently found in debating...
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    The killer flaw in pre-tribulation rapture doctrine

    The church was a mystery revealed through Paul, therefore, Jesus was not prophesying the rapture of the church in that passage. Much love!
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    GOD'S ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR BELIEVERS

    1 Corinthians 4:3-5 KJV 3) But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. 4) For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord. 5) Therefore judge nothing before the time...
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    Which church is the best fit for someone?

    We've really had to grow into that trust, and after 33 years married are still working on that. But we both trust the Lord, and that takes the pressure off, which helps so much! Much love!
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    GOD'S ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR BELIEVERS

    Post 151, you resonded to my answer as being wrong, when I said the same thing as you did. Which is cool, because I seldom hear anyone give that answer. Much love!
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    GOD'S ULTIMATE PURPOSE FOR BELIEVERS

    I'm curious, did you actually read my answer? Just wondering, it doesn't seem like it. Much love!
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    Which church is the best fit for someone?

    The first one . . . we were in a larger church, and wanted a smaller church where we could be more personally involved. We were in a home fellowship, with some from our church, and several from this other church, a bunch of very nice people! So I suggested a church, and my wife said, "what...
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    YHWH Archaeology

    Archeology playing catch up! Much love!
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    What is 'Christian Love' of God and Neighbor?

    I've come to think of Christian Love as when I am committed to the wellbeing of the one whom I love, over and above my own well being. Much love!
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    Does familiarity breed contempt

    I think familiarity breeds contempt in those who do not love those with whom they are familiar, and I think familiarity breeds endearment in those who do love those with whom they are familiar. Much love!
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    Which church is the best fit for someone?

    I don't think we should expect to be 100% same page with everyone in a group that's new to us. Or with a person's teaching, and I think it's a great idea to keep in mind, "Maybe it's me that's wrong about this!" And while I've benefitted greatly from good teaching, I've maybe benefitted more...
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    Which church is the best fit for someone?

    Hi Runningman, My wife and I were in a wonderful church pastored by the most loving man I've ever known, his wife the same, and the church was therefore mostly the same. Occassionally he, or one of the others teaching, would say things I disagreed with, but the first thing is love, and this...